I didn't read your original post, Jacqueline -- but it sounds like you went out looking for trouble and found some!
I have enough trouble just making a little peace in myself, let alone trying to save some ducks at the same time :) Rod Scholl -----Original Message----- From: Jacqueline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Zen] Re: too much --- In [email protected], kyukyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps It Is Anger At A Percieved Violation Of Your > Sanctuary That Has You Upset. It is the killing that has upset me, and the way the entire situation was handled. There Is No Place You > Can Go, Nor Will Any Effort Succeed In Creating An > Oasis Where Nothing Suffers Or Dies. It is true that we suffer and die, but when others inflict suffering and death out of cruelity and hatred would it not be equally wrong to condone or ignore it ? I tried to stop it, was willing to go to jail to stop it, and I paid for it. My tossing of decoys was compared to a theif dropping the money at the bank doors when he saw the cops. I was charged with theft even tho nothing was taken. I was also charged with harassement. I was put into a diversion programme and was to do community service. Later when the hunters put a dead goose (killed out of season) on our family doorstep, the entire event got brushed under the rug even tho my daughter and the landowners daughter gave me the names of those that committed the act. The Universes > Will Not Shift In Response To Your Desires Or To Mine. > Instead Of Creating More Anger And Suffering In Your > Neighborhood, You Might Try Taking Your Ideas Out Of > Some Fictional Shangra La And Bring Yourself To Being > Peace Right In The Real Place Right Where You Are Are > Amidst All The Suffering And Pain. I admit since the original event, and since the time I have joined a sangha group I have more peace, but that doesn't mean that my family and friends are able to obtain the same peace. If You Come To > Understand That This Place Your Karma Has Brought You > To Is Also The Place Where Hunters Kill In Reality, It > Then Requires A Realistic Response. The Only Way To > Put Some Peace Into This Place Is To Bring It > Yourself. You Cannot Create Peace By Feeding Anger. This is why I took the precepts on my own, so I can be more aware of the anger and handle the situation differently this time without feeding the anger. > You Cannot Brow Beat Or Sue Others Into Peace. My next step of action I thought could be to sue...maybe they will see that my beliefs against killing animals is the same as their beliefs of 'loving thy neighbor as thyself'. Could I not take a stand for moral reasons to stop the hunting beside our home ? You > Cannot Force Peace To Grow In Anothers Heart. Shouldn't I be teaching them by example ? All You > Do Is Plant The Seed Of Peace In Your Own Heart And > Nurture It Till It Is Strong Enough To Survive In The > Real World Right There. This takes time and proper teaching and dedication to nuture the seed of peace in this world . Thank you for your reply. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > In a nutshell I took action against the hunters and > the landowner, > > gone to court over my actions, and when actions were > taken against me > > in the form of a hate crime by the hunters, no > justice was served. > > >> > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/WwRTUD/SOnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
