Reply to if I've actually seen poverty ...Yes, at one time in my 
life I picked up cans along the highway and took them to milliron 
for money.  
I was hired by my current employer because I had no medical 
insurance right out of H.S., and the person in charge of collection 
hired me.  I didn't have money to buy a car, pay for the gas, or the 
auto insurance so I walked to work.  I have not suffered as those in 
other countries and I am grateful, I help them in ways I am able to 
help. If those you speak of are hunting to feed starving families, 
and do not receive welfare, than that is the only means of 
survival.  But are they hunting beside anothers home with pets and 
children nearby ?  Not only is it the precept of not killing, it is 
a much more complicated situation.  
 
> within easy driving distance of new york city, where i live, i
> personally know people who, by circumstance, do need to hunt during
> season & stock their freezers TO MAKE ENDS MEET.  some do it with 
bow
> & arrow (!!), others with rifles.  
> 
> this is in close driving distance to the densest & arguably 
wealthiest
> urban concentration in the united states.
> 
> it may not be organized communities of the kind you refer.  but do 
not
> presume that EVERYONE in this country has such easy means that they
> don't need to hunt for food to get by.
> 
> it's called poverty.  have you ever actually seen it?
> 
> for those who want to develop "loving-kindness" for all, develop it
> also toward those who have to do things "repugnant" to you to 
survive.
> *that* is a difficult loving-kindness indeed.  
> 
> 
> - elk





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