Randy,

   Thank you for the information. I will take a look at his website.

   Regards,

   Francisco.


--- In [email protected], Randy Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Francisco,
> 
>  
> 
> You may want to check out Michael Carroll's writings and consulting 
business:  
> 
>  
> 
> "Michael Carroll is a Buddhist meditation teacher who had a 32-year 
career on Wall Street and then in publishing. He is the founding 
director of Awake at Work, a consulting group that helps 
organizations and individuals discover balance and well-being in the 
midst of everyday labors."
> 
>  
> 
> Some excerpts of his book, Awake at Work, are here, here and here, 
and an article he wrote on the topic for Buddhadharma is available 
here.  
> 
>  
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Randy  
> 
> Francisco Garcia Scherer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I have been looking for information on previous attempts to 
> develop "zen-oriented" work enviroments and educational systems, 
but 
> I have not been able to find much information about it. The 
Greystone 
> foundation in New York, for instance, started a very sucessful 
bakery 
> and is doing a very positive social work with minority groups in 
the 
> city of Yonkers. However, their main focus is to raise living 
> standards in their local community, and not to teach zen principles 
> through daily work. A former IBM employee named Les Kaye, by his 
> turn, has written a book named "Zen At Work", but it focus 
primarily 
> on zen doctrine and personal memories. I have also searched the 
> internet with key-words like "buddhism:professional education", and 
I 
> haven�t found anything relevant.
>     Rod, one of my purposes, in this forum, is to communicate and 
> learn from the others. If you have more information in this kind of 
> project, or initiative, please let me know.
>   
>     Regards,
> 
>     Francisco.
>     
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Rod Scholl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > Francisco,
> > 
> > Do you really think no one has explored this sort of thing?  Zen 
> Abbots,
> > and those responsible for PR etc.?  If you want to lend a hand, 
call
> > them up and aks what you can do to help.  Re-inventing the wheel,
> > especially you when might lack the intelligence, knowledge, 
> situation to
> > invent it round not square -- is all done at the expense of your 
> moment.
> > 
> > Rod
> > 
> > 
> > Rod Scholl 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On
> > Behalf Of Francisco Garcia Scherer
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:24 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Buddhist Practice in the West
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Very confused, and has nothing to do with Buddhism.
> > > 
> > 
> >   I am sorry if I was not clear. Basically, what I am saying is 
> that we
> > could use professional education as an alternative way to teach 
zen
> > principles to youngsters, without getting into cultural or 
religious
> > conflicts with their families and parents. In my opinion, a 
person 
> who
> > learns how to perfom a specific task, with full attention, is also
> > learning how to achieve a more serene mind. And child who learns 
> how to
> > work in teams is also learning about interdependence, right 
speech,
> > right action, right livehood, etc.
> >   Naturally, some people are going to say that it has nothing to 
do 
> with
> > Buddhism, at least in a supperficial way. And this is good. With 
> this
> > new method, people will learn about buddhist principles without 
> having
> > to deal with cultural and emotional barriers generated by normal
> > buddhist practice. I, for instance, still find it strange to chant
> > sutras after zazen, and the practice of bowing before the Buddha 
> statue
> > is not something that comes naturally to me. Moreover, it seems 
to 
> me
> > that the contemporary Buddhist practice, in the west, is very
> > individualistic and, up to a point, favors alienation. This new
> > approach, by its turn, would favor social integration and help 
> society
> > to produce more balanced and healthier individuals.
> >   
> >   Regards,
> > 
> >   Francisco.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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