At 04:26 PM 4/30/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>From: "Ian"  Thrilling, enjoyment, and fun, are all just pleasant
> > states.  Zen is about non-grasping awareness.  If there is fun, there is
>fun.  If not, not.  It's about no problem either way.  Fun is
>  temporary!  No such thing as fun all the time.>>
>
>Why not fun most of the time? Can't non-grasping awareness be fun? Shouldn't
>inner peace be enjoyable? Shouldn't you be happy if you are not in conflict?

Ok, let's compromise.  How about fun some of the time. :)  Ever get acid 
indigestion?  Flu?  Bad headache?  Is that fun?  Joyful?  How should these 
be experienced?  Do we try to transform them into fun and joyful 
experiences?  How is this accomplished?  What if a headache remains 
painful, and there's no joyful feeling anywhere?  Then what.  Where is 
liberation right there?

These are questions I'm asking myself right now.  I just sat zazen, my 
stomach's a bit uncomfortable, I have a headache, and I'm not feeling much 
peace or joy.  Where's the liberation?

Ian



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