--- In [email protected], "Spider63" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But you will never be able to help me get there because you A) 
don't read
> any books, especially Zen books, B) don't practice zazen or any 
other kind
> of meditation, C) have never been to a Zen Temple and don't plan on 
going,
> D) you can never add any perspective beyond what you feel inside of
> yourself.


im not on here to help you, im on here to help myself.




> 
> What you feel inside of yourself may be very stimulating to you, 
but it is
> Off-Topic.

this is where you are wrong, the home page does not say you have to 
read,study,practice zen to be part of this group. its unfortunate for 
you that you cannot see past this. my interest in zen goes beyond 
quoting a zen teacher from the past or present which i dont see 
anything wrong with but ultimately i would like to achieve 
enlightenment so i can be at peace with myself. if you could see past 
your ego you would recognize that zen is about living right and being 
a decent human being no matter what the circumstances. its also about 
not trying to push people away because they dont fit or form into 
their ideas of who should be in his or her group. i will continue to 
post here as i see fit. Mack




 So when you buy yourself a Zen book and read it and can post
> something of more objective substance, feel free to start posting 
again.
> Otherwise you can join the Street Fighting Zen list and post over 
there.
> 
> Ray Bradbury, in Zen In the Art of Writing wrote: "What you ask, 
does
> writing teach us? First and foremost, it reminds us that we are 
alive, and
> that it is a gift and a prvilege, not a right. We must earn life 
once it has
> been awarded us. Life asks for rewards back because it has favored 
us with
> animation."
> 
> I hope you understand.


i understand that you do not. Mack


 We need to stay On Topic, and this is the Zen Forum,
> not the "What I Feel Inside" Forum.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Al




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