Stephen Beecroft wrote:

> -Val-
> >  I am a good Mormon Democrat
> -Stephen-
> > Then I'm willing to bet you're not a liberal Democrat.
> -Marc-
> > Please don't define *our* language for us.
> Marc, I am talking to a fellow American here,

You used the phrase "[here] and elsewhere". It was the "elsewhere" that I was
taking objection to.

Your original: "Much as some, American and otherwise, might find that hard to
understand, I think it's tautological." You left that off your quote, above.

Marc A. Schindler
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland

“We do not think that there is an incompatibility between words and deeds; the
worst thing is to rush into action before the consequences have been properly
debated…To think of the future and wait was merely another way of saying one was
a coward; any idea of moderation was just an attempt to disguise one’s unmanly
character; ability to understand a question from all sides meant that one was
totally unfitted for action.” – Pericles about his fellow-Athenians, as quoted by
Thucydides in “The Peloponessian Wars”

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