Mike, Ellis, Mike wrote:
I like your eaxample... Good way to go if you can't swing the zones over to some other server for import/attach/upgrade. How would you envision backing out of the newbe environment if (after doing the zoneimport +upgrade) you decide you want to back out and boot to the pre-lu root-environment?
I am not proposing an integrated backout as part of this. Just as with a standard upgrade, you can't backout. However, with zone migration you have all sorts of tools if you want to backout. You can clone the zone before detaching, you can keep a copy of the zone on the original system or if you used an archive file to migrate the zone, you can keep a copy of that. That is also why I am proposing an option you would need to specify for the update, so that we don't modify the zone until you are ready.
(You can't attach -u the luns for downgrade purposes can you? The zones would be seriously out of whack as a result of the attach/upgrade.)
I won't allow a downgrade.
I guess if there WAS zfs in play, at least you could snapshot before attach-upgrading?
Even without zfs you can clone the zone. It just takes longer.
The whole attach+upgrade thing is a little scary anyway, some sort of backout will be needed...
See my comments above.
Maybe put the zones in some lu-state before doing the attach+upgrade? Maybe that's the suggested way to do this anyay? (Lu the whole shabang, which will give you clean backout of zones and root-env)
LU is not an alternative here since it works on all of the zones along with the global zone, not a single new zone that we are trying to attach. It is a good solution for handling the whole system but is not a solution for attaching a single zone. While I haven't gotten into the implementation details in this proposal, the way LU works is fundamentally different than what I am proposing here.
As mike said, we're going to have zfs play in this space sooner or later, and its snapshot facilities can really help solve some serious issues here. Interesting development... Attach+upgrade zones is flirting with "killer-app" status, especially when combined with zfs clones/snapshots.
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