Come on, can someone post some sample screenshots?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Dawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brian Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:39 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3
> Well just to be completely different to everyone else, I like the new
> The bar at the top takes up a centimeter on my 20in monitor and it doesn't
> bother me in the slightest.
> I think Brain is right, People have been asking for DC to give Zope a face
> lift and now its got one you are all complaining about it.
> Don't get me wrong the points you raised are valid but you are complaining
> about 32 pixels. Give it a week and you won't know what you were
> complaining about.
> Overall it gets the thumbs up from me. :)
> (P.S. Why hasn't the acl_users folder got the same style of
> shaded/non-shaded rows, Just a consistancy thang :)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of Brian Lloyd
> > Sent: 12 January 2001 02:12
> > To: Steve Alexander; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] New UI for 2.3
> > > I think the new UI for 2.3 is great improvement over 2.2.
> > >
> > > I'm already finding the sorted tables of folder contents useful, and
> > > having the add new items select at the top saves time.
> > >
> > >
> > > However, I do not like the 3-frame interface. I feel that the top
> > > is wasted space. The Zope logo and "Logged in as username | Logout"
> > > could as easily go at the bottom of the tree-view frame on the left.
> > > This would leave extra screen space for doing work.
> > >
> > > I realize that I can make the frame smaller by dragging it with my
> > > mouse. I do a lot of TTW development, and I think I might find that
> > > cumbersome, so I guess I'll be hacking the top frame out of my
> > > management interface :-)
> > Are you guys working on 486's with 13in. monitors at 640x480 or
> > something? :^)
> > Seriously - Zope has been criticized for a very long time for
> > being, ah, aesthetically challenged :) It is a valid criticism
> > - we have been (and quite honestly, will continue to be) more
> > concerned with function over form. But is it really so bad to
> > make a 32 pixel-high concession to a small pittance of branding?
> > I know that "branding" isn't important for those who are already
> > believers, but Zope has grown enough that its reasonable to put
> > some effort into "first impression factor". It doesn't help the
> > community for reviews to come out that waste words on the
> > visual appeal shortcomings of the UI and totally miss the
> > point. A better first impression is a Good Thing.
> > The top frame is also a place where we might want to put more
> > "placeless" operations like logout in the future. You can only
> > jam so much into the tree pane without it looking very much
> > like way too much is being jammed into the tree pane :) FWIW,
> > one of the things we may put there later is a way to do "browser
> > preferences" via cookies to control things like default text
> > area sizes. That could also have a "hide top frame" option for
> > those who really can't spare the 32px. :^)
> > Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Software Engineer 540.371.6909
> > Digital Creations www.digicool.com
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