Andreas Jung wrote:

- Gadfly(DA) - do we really need this? We discussed this already. In my
  opinion the purpose of Gadfly is only educational but nothing that one
  really needs or uses for production. It could be removed and made
  available for download on


From time to time I teach classes on Zope. Often to people with an sql legacy. Most companies don't have a computer lab with similar machines, so often the educational software must be installed on the participants own machine. Which can be of any platform.

Using Gadfly as an educational tool is *very* practical. Eg. they can install Zope, and begin using sql at once.

Having to install postgres etc. just to teach about database connections etc. would be really impractical.

If there is another practical way to do it, that would be fine too. I don't know about sqllite. But if it's more difficulte than dropping a package into a directory it would be bad.


hilsen/regards Max M, Denmark
IT's Mad Science

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