> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope
> On 4/11/09 4:39 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
> > Chris McDonough wrote:
> >> On 4/11/09 9:40 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
> >>> "Zope 4 is built using Zope Toolkit 1.0, as is Grok, 
> repoze.cfg, and 
> >>> something else"
> >> repoze.bfg is actually *not* build with the Zope Toolkit 
> at least as 
> >> "Zope Toolkit" is defined by the Steering Group.  It uses only 
> >> zope.component, zope.interface, and zope.configuration, plus the 
> >> dependencies thereof plus zope.testing.  This works out to 
> maybe 12 
> >> zope-related packages, while the Zope Toolkit is, AFAICT, 
> defined as 
> >> "the set of packages that Zope 3 used to be, versioned as 
> a unit through time".
> >
> > The closest technical definition of packages in the Zope Toolkit is 
> > currently "what Zope2 (or Grok) needs of Zope 3, minus the stuff it 
> > shouldn't need, plus the general useful stuff".
> Right.  That's what I meant to say. ;-)

Ah, cool Zope Toolkit! Seems to be another nice thing which nobody 
exactly knows what it is or should be. Sounds good to me. I'm used
to such things since I develope Zope 3 and every new user makes
decisions ;-)

> > This comes down to a list of about 70 packages right now, where 
> > ideally it should be closer to 50 after some more 
> dependency cleanup. 
> > The "general useful stuff" are things like zope.intid, 
> > zope.keyreference and zope.catalog if I remember Theuni's 
> mail correctly.
> That much dependency cleanup would be fantastic.

Yes, cool, but what exactly whould you like to cleanup?

> > ZDecoy, eh Zope 3 consisted of over 140 packages, so I do 
> see a very 
> > clear difference between the two. That is not to say, 
> repoze is based 
> > on the Zope Toolkit :)

Ah, ZDecoy, sounds nice, do I need that?

> Heh.  "Repoze" (unqualified with a suffix) is a whole 
> separate thing; BFG obviously has its own naming issues.

I know that the spring turns many people crazy sometimes
but hey, we are developer and there a no girls arround ;-)

Let me know if the renaming excess is over and please
let me know with what I'm working and on what my
applications are running at that time.

Roger Ineichen

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