> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] naming Zope
> On 4/11/09 4:39 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:
> > Chris McDonough wrote:
> >> On 4/11/09 9:40 AM, Chris Withers wrote:
> >>> "Zope 4 is built using Zope Toolkit 1.0, as is Grok,
> repoze.cfg, and
> >>> something else"
> >> repoze.bfg is actually *not* build with the Zope Toolkit
> at least as
> >> "Zope Toolkit" is defined by the Steering Group. It uses only
> >> zope.component, zope.interface, and zope.configuration, plus the
> >> dependencies thereof plus zope.testing. This works out to
> maybe 12
> >> zope-related packages, while the Zope Toolkit is, AFAICT,
> defined as
> >> "the set of packages that Zope 3 used to be, versioned as
> a unit through time".
> > The closest technical definition of packages in the Zope Toolkit is
> > currently "what Zope2 (or Grok) needs of Zope 3, minus the stuff it
> > shouldn't need, plus the general useful stuff".
> Right. That's what I meant to say. ;-)
Ah, cool Zope Toolkit! Seems to be another nice thing which nobody
exactly knows what it is or should be. Sounds good to me. I'm used
to such things since I develope Zope 3 and every new user makes
> > This comes down to a list of about 70 packages right now, where
> > ideally it should be closer to 50 after some more
> dependency cleanup.
> > The "general useful stuff" are things like zope.intid,
> > zope.keyreference and zope.catalog if I remember Theuni's
> mail correctly.
> That much dependency cleanup would be fantastic.
Yes, cool, but what exactly whould you like to cleanup?
> > ZDecoy, eh Zope 3 consisted of over 140 packages, so I do
> see a very
> > clear difference between the two. That is not to say,
> repoze is based
> > on the Zope Toolkit :)
Ah, ZDecoy, sounds nice, do I need that?
> Heh. "Repoze" (unqualified with a suffix) is a whole
> separate thing; BFG obviously has its own naming issues.
I know that the spring turns many people crazy sometimes
but hey, we are developer and there a no girls arround ;-)
Let me know if the renaming excess is over and please
let me know with what I'm working and on what my
applications are running at that time.
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