There certainly won't be a Zope 4, but if you liked Zope and prefer more opinionated ways of doing things, you can take a look at SubstanceD, which is one of Pyramid's full stack offerings and a tiny bit what Zope 4 could have been.
http://substanced.net/ Carlos de la Guardia On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Christopher Lozinski < lozin...@freerecruiting.com> wrote: > > On 9/6/14, 9:27 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: > > without citing the source > > > My Apologies. Here it is. > > > http://slacy.com/blog/2011/02/why-im-unhappy-with-the-pyramid-web-framework/ > > I quote: > > I’m having to read through the Pyramid source code trying to figure out > what the heck is going on with configuration. > At it’s heart, the problem with Pyramid is also what makes it great: They > don’t prescribe any one way to do anything. > > On 9/6/14, 9:27 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: > > > Worse yet that code has been optimized making it even harder to understand. > > > > So much bullshit, > > > Well for this one, I will just quote from > "Defending Pyramid's Design" > presumably written by ChrisM himself. > > > > http://docs.pylonsproject.org/projects/pyramid/en/1.3-branch/designdefense.html > > > "We optimize Pyramid aggressively. This comes at a cost: the core code > has sections that could be expressed more readably. As an amelioration, > we’ve commented these sections liberally." > > And that is the author's presumably generous description. > > So is ChrisM also a bullshitter? Then I am in good company. > > I really do have the highest respect for ChrisM, and Pyramid. And I do > think it is a valid choice to use a tool that keeps your options open. But > there is also a valid choice to have a certain way of doing things. There > is a philosophical difference between Grok and Pyramid, and it is important > that someone points it out. I think of Grok as more of a purist approach. > > I like grok. > > Thank you for encouraging a lively discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zope3-users mailing list > Zope3email@example.com > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope3-users > >
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