"yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new
followers to zope."

Quite right. It's an ignorant attitude and one that itself deserves the label that it is prescribing. It's been prevalent for a long time on this list. The whole attitude here is one of sneering and schoolboy name calling.

Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings that the Zope list gets? Yes. because it is a more mature and constructive support environment which actually helps promote the product.

On 11/13/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--On 13. November 2006 07:24:20 -0600 Perry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
> On Nov 13, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
>
>> Chris Withers said the following on 11/13/2006 12:11 PM:
>>> Hafeliel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you could, please take a moment to surf on over to
>>>> http://zopereplacement.wikidot.com/
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
>>>
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numpty
>>>
>>> Try doing a bit more digging before wasting your time writing this
>>> rubbish.
>>>
>>> I suggest you take a good long hard look at Zope 3, read the 2 books,
>>> and then come back...
>>
>> yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new
>> followers to zope.
>>
>> Sure, the man might be mistaken and misinformed, but  if it is hard to
>> understand the tool, maybe some docs or references might be in order,
>> thoughI fail to see anythign zope related in
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll unless we mean to describe
>> the attitude towards criticism we/some of us don't like (like to deal
>> with?).
>
> I probably sounds like a broken record but:
>
> My suggestion to the Zope developers is look at Apache's documentation.
> Its all there, complete, in one place.  Wiki's do not document.  They are
> for discussions and new ideas, etc.  Internal docs are just for a few
> limited instances.  They require you to be working in Zope at the time,
> they can not be printed, they can not really be searched.
>
>

This is all true but historical reasons and because "the community" did not
help much to improve the situation. So the current situation is basically a
mirror of its community?! Anyway, this wiki contains a bunch of false
information or information written by a person that has little idea about
Zope. If someone comes up with such a wiki one can expect solid and right
information but at least half of the stuff is just wrong and some parts of
the wiki really deserve the predicate "written by a numpty"...sorry but I
prefer to make clear statements :-)

-aj



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