followers to zope."
Quite right. It's an ignorant attitude and one that itself deserves the label that it is prescribing. It's been prevalent for a long time on this list. The whole attitude here is one of sneering and schoolboy name calling.
Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings that the Zope list gets? Yes. because it is a more mature and constructive support environment which actually helps promote the product.
On 11/13/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--On 13. November 2006 07:24:20 -0600 Perry Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Nov 13, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote:
>
>> Chris Withers said the following on 11/13/2006 12:11 PM:
>>> Hafeliel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you could, please take a moment to surf on over to
>>>> http://zopereplacement.wikidot.com/
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
>>>
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numpty
>>>
>>> Try doing a bit more digging before wasting your time writing this
>>> rubbish.
>>>
>>> I suggest you take a good long hard look at Zope 3, read the 2 books,
>>> and then come back...
>>
>> yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new
>> followers to zope.
>>
>> Sure, the man might be mistaken and misinformed, but if it is hard to
>> understand the tool, maybe some docs or references might be in order,
>> thoughI fail to see anythign zope related in
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll unless we mean to describe
>> the attitude towards criticism we/some of us don't like (like to deal
>> with?).
>
> I probably sounds like a broken record but:
>
> My suggestion to the Zope developers is look at Apache's documentation.
> Its all there, complete, in one place. Wiki's do not document. They are
> for discussions and new ideas, etc. Internal docs are just for a few
> limited instances. They require you to be working in Zope at the time,
> they can not be printed, they can not really be searched.
>
>
This is all true but historical reasons and because "the community" did not
help much to improve the situation. So the current situation is basically a
mirror of its community?! Anyway, this wiki contains a bunch of false
information or information written by a person that has little idea about
Zope. If someone comes up with such a wiki one can expect solid and right
information but at least half of the stuff is just wrong and some parts of
the wiki really deserve the predicate "written by a numpty"...sorry but I
prefer to make clear statements :-)
-aj
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