Hi Henrik Yealing is correct blast files cannot be edited. If you need to you can read them into Artemis and write them out in EMBL format. Then read in the embl file into Artemis for editing.
Regards Tim On 5/14/10 8:15 AM, "Yealing" <yealingt+arte...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. I believe that all blast tables (blast result > files in table format) are read into artemis as read-only, hence uneditable. > > If you wish to edit those files, you will have to translate the blast table > into a genbank/embl format before reading it into artemis. > > Cheers, > -- yealing -- > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Henrik Lantz <henrik.la...@mikrob.slu.se> > wrote: >> Once again, big thanks goes out to Yealing and Alex. I am learning perl now >> and will have those names extracted soon. >> >> One more question: >> I am using Artemis on MacOSX Snow Leopard. When I read the blasthits into >> Artemis, they are read only. Pressing "e" opens the edit window, but I can't >> do anyhting with them. I can edit the contigs just fine, but not the blast >> results. I took the contig file and blast file to a friends computer and >> loaded it into his Artemis, and we had the same problem. He had never had >> that problem with his own files. I have checked that I have read/write >> permission on all files and the application itself. I have refrained from >> asking here, as I though it was a MacOSX problem and not an Artemis problem, >> but now I am not so sure. The problem is there even when I transfer the files >> to another computer and seems associated with the blast result file itself. >> Any setting in Artemis I am missing? >> >> Anyone know what might be causing my problems? >> /Henrik >> ________________________________________ >> Från: artemis-users-boun...@sanger.ac.uk [artemis-users-boun...@sanger.ac.uk] >> för Bossers, Alex [alex.boss...@wur.nl] >> Skickat: den 11 maj 2010 20:58 >> Till: artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk >> Ämne: Re: [Artemis-users] Multiple contigs and Blastall-results >> >> Henrik, >> yealing's second option is also how I do it. If you have local blast its not >> that bad..... >> Alex >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Van: artemis-users-boun...@sanger.ac.uk namens Yealing >> Verzonden: di 11-5-2010 9:57 >> Aan: Henrik Lantz >> CC: artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk >> Onderwerp: Re: [Artemis-users] Multiple contigs and Blastall-results >> >> >> Hello Hendrik >> >> Not very sure about the blastall from blast+ package, but the blastall >> package from NCBI blast package only outputs the gi/accession number for all >> the blast hits in -m 8 (table) format. >> >> We have two ways to deal with this: >> (1) run blastall and use -m 0, which defaults and output all the long names, >> then use a script to parse the file into a table format. The parsing can be >> really slow, we're using a bioperl script. this is how most of the people in >> my lab does it. >> (2) run blastall and use -m 8, which outputs the table format with short >> names. Then, using a script, collect all gi/accession the significant blast >> hits in a text file, use batch entrez to get the long names, then use another >> script to replace the short names in the blast output file with the long >> names. this is how i do it, again, my scripting is really bad so I apologize >> for not sharing the script. >> >> All the best, >> -- yealing -- >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Henrik Lantz <henrik.la...@mikrob.slu.se> >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi >> >> A big thank you to Tim, Yealing and Alex for all the help! >> >> Here is what I have done so far: I got help from a friend to write a >> perl script that transforms the coordinates in the blast result file to >> cumulative coordinates. This file can then be read as a feature in Artemis >> just fine and maps perfectly onto the contigs. >> >> I also made some progress with the alternative discussed with Tim, >> i.e., loading the contig file in Artemis and choosing "write all bases in >> FASTA format" and then blasting this file. I managed to avoid the memory >> related problems I had with blastall by using the blast+ package and the >> legacyscript included there. The blast results can then be read as a feature >> in Artemis without any problems. >> >> Of these two approaches I prefer the first one since this allows me >> to keep the original contigs. >> >> The "problem" I am having now is getting the names of the proteins >> into Artemis. The blast results only include the systematic name of the blast >> hits, not the full names in understandable English. I am sure I am just >> missing something very simple here, and will soon have a solution, but if >> anyone has a suggestion I would also be very interested in hearing about it. >> Still in the learning phase... >> >> Cheers, >> Henrik >> ________________________________________ >> Från: artemis-users-boun...@sanger.ac.uk >> [artemis-users-boun...@sanger.ac.uk] för Yealing >> [yealingt+arte...@gmail.com <mailto:yealingt%2barte...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:yealingt%2barte...@gmail.com <mailto:yealingt%252barte...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:yealingt%2barte...@gmail.com > > ] >> Skickat: den 29 april 2010 11:59 >> Till: Tim Carver >> Kopia: artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk; Henrik Lantz >> Ämne: Re: [Artemis-users] Multiple contigs and Blastall-results >> >> >> Hi >> >> I've had the same problem in the past. There sometimes are reasons >> why we do not wish to join the contigs before we send for a blast, for >> example once we join the contigs, the other contig informations are lost. >> >> I've been able to map the blast results correctly in Artemis, but >> because I'm not a very good scripter, things might work or break using the >> bash-awk script that I have. So I usually end up doing it sort of manually >> for a lot of different people with different data sets. Here's how I do it: >> >> 1, we need a file containing <contig name> in the first column and >> <contig length> in the second column. The make or break problem is that in >> this file, the contig names must be arrange to the exact order as Artemis >> puts them. >> 2, from there, I use a script to generate a file with <contig name> >> in the first column and <cummulative contigs length at start of contig> in >> the second column. This can be done with excel too, if you're not familiar >> with scripting. >> 3, I then process the blastall result file, by modifying the start >> and stop coordinates (adding the cummulative contigs length at start of >> contig to the start and stop coordinate). >> >> After that, (usually if nothing bad happens) you will be able to just >> load the blastall result file in Artemis. Best thing is we get to keep all >> the details that we might or might not need. >> >> Cheers, >> -- yealing -- >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Tim Carver >> <t...@sanger.ac.uk<mailto:t...@sanger.ac.uk>> wrote: >> Hi Henrik >> >> You have found the correct solution. It is just that the blast >> reports >> coordinates from the start of the sequence and so they need joining >> up >> before you do the blast. I am not sure why you get that memory error. >> If you >> have access to another machine you may want to try the blast there. >> Alternatively you could possibly try a smaller number of contigs and >> then >> use the EMBOSS application 'union' to join them back up. >> >> Regards >> Tim >> >> >> >> On 4/29/10 8:09 AM, "Henrik Lantz" >> <henrik.la...@mikrob.slu.se<mailto:henrik.la...@mikrob.slu.se>> wrote: >> >> > I was hoping I could get some help with a newbie Artemis question. >> Very new to >> > all this. >> > >> > I have made a denovo assembly of a fungus using MIRA and 454-data >> only. The >> > resulting fasta file with around 4000 contigs loads into Artemis >> fine. I can >> > check all the contigs, find ORFs etc. The problem appears when I >> want to >> > import the results of a blastall search on the contig-datafile. All >> > annotations from the blastall results are lumped into the first >> five contigs, >> > with the overwhelming majority in the first contig. Obviously not >> correct. I >> > am using the -m 8 flag for the blastall search. Looking through the >> resultfile >> > from blastall in a text editor I can see that the blastall search >> has worked, >> > and there are many interesting hits, but I would like to visualize >> the results >> > on the contigs. >> > >> > I read through the mail archive and found a user with a similar >> problem >> > >> (http://www.mail-archive.com/artemis-users%40sanger.ac.uk/msg00463.html) and >> > it seems one solution might be to save the contigs as a long >> continuous file >> > in Artemis, and then use that in the Blastall search. But when I >> try that I >> > get an error message from blastall: >> > >> > blastall(33748) malloc: *** mmap(size=1048576) failed (error >> code=12) >> > *** error: can't allocate region >> > *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug >> > Bus error >> > >> > I am running on MacOSX Snow Leopard with 20 GBs of memory. >> > Any help to get an inexperienced user started would be very much >> appreciated! >> > /Henrik >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Artemis-users mailing list >> >> > Artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk<mailto:Artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk> >> >> > http://lists.sanger.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/artemis-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Artemis-users mailing list >> >> artemis-us...@sanger.ac.uk<mailto:Artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk> >> >> http://lists.sanger.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/artemis-users >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Artemis-users mailing list >> Artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk >> http://lists.sanger.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/artemis-users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Artemis-users mailing list >> Artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk >> http://lists.sanger.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/artemis-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Artemis-users mailing list > Artemis-users@sanger.ac.uk > http://lists.sanger.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/artemis-users
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