Does that mean you don't sign the book when you do a daily inspection Ron? (I'm assuming you have a DI rating) the risks of litigation are the same if something went wrong and it was deemed in the subsequent inquiry to be as a result of something missed during the daily inspection. A duplicate inspection is just that, a second inspection covering control and strutural connections why is it any more onerous to sign off on that?
John -----Original Message----- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sanders Sent: Monday, 16 May 2011 9:24 PM To: p...@kurstjens.com; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Foka incident I will never ever ever do this second signature-it is beyond belief that an organisation would force it members to expose them selves to the possibility of suit like this. I have to sign enough shit at work over which i have no control, so to do something like this in my private life is madness. Unless I do it and control it i dont sign it. Ron On 16 May 2011 08:56, Pam Kurstjens <p...@kurstjens.com> wrote: > Anyone who countersigns somebody elses rigging is nuts. Unless they have > observed and checked it every inch of the way, fully understand the glider > type they are signing off for, AND are willing to accept liability. > > Why do we expose our fellow glider pilots to this enormous burden of > responsibility? > > Pam > > > > > > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Matthew > Gage > Sent: Monday, 16 May 2011 2:01 PM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Foka incident > > > > Rolf, in this I agree with Mike - there is no way that a duplicate control > check (or even DI) would have found the problem. Sadly, such a person would > have spent months in court defending themselves, costing them many thousands > with no prospect of any insurance helping them. > > > > In practice, the UK do have a 2nd inspection - just with no signature. The > accident report even says this was done ! > > > > Is it the check that improves safety or the signature ???? > > > > > > On 16/05/2011, at 13:35 , rolf a. buelter wrote: > > Yea, way more important to cover your ass against litigation then document a > second chance to get it right! > > Allays your miserable Mr. Buelter > >> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:54:25 +1000 >> To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> From: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Foka incident >> >> >> Lots of lessons in the Foka crash. >> >> One big one is how fortunate it was the BGA and there was no second >> sigmnature on the DI after rigging. >> >> Mike >> Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since >> 1978 >> phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 >> fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 >> cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 >> >> email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com >> website: www.borgeltinstruments.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
