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Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
E46 Bumper Trim Strip
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:06:47 -0400
From: Carey Probst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Can't speak for the Goodyears but I have the KDW2 on both my M3 and 325
I use primarily for track duty.
Wear has been impressive as has the steering response and traction, both
wet and dry.
Both cars have done schools at Watkins Glen on the KDW2s and still have
lots of tread left.
I've been happy with them and have recommended them to friends as summer
tires. Amazingly, even though summer only, they got me through a late
snow this year with similar conditions to those that had me stuck in my
driveway (slight hill to get out) in the previous Yokos.
Carey
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 01:22:14 -0700
> From: bbarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[uucdigest]" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
> Subject: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Tire time again, been mostly happy in the past with the Goodyears.
> The BFG GForce Sport were weaker on traction but have a live steering
> feel and wear great.
> Have not tried the KDW2 before.
> Tire rack rates them as dry traction 9.2, steering response 9.0, and
> treadwear 7.9.
> The Goodyears are rated the same for dry traction and treadwear, but
> less steering response, 8.8.
>
> Opinions please? Not interested in other tires, only between these two pls.
> tia,
> Barry
>
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>
>
Carey Probst
'99M3 daily driver
'86 325 track toy, cammed, chipped, swayed
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:50:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
The KDW2 seems to be the upcoming favorite trackable street tire on the
west coast. It's relatively cheap, and its wet grip is said to be very
good.
--Andre
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:06:34 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
With great amusement, I listened to students discuss "track" tires at WGI
this weekend. Not one of them mentioned an actual track tire.
While street tires like the KDW2 might be better than other street tires at
the track, it simply makes no sense.
For very reasonable money, the Toyo RA1 on a set of Kosei K1s (or similar
affordable wheels) will work immensely better, last much longer, and won't
destroy your expensive street tires.
But of course, I did not want to reveal to the class that I was insane... I
think the best street tire is the RA1 and have been using them year-round
for the past two years on my '98 M3. Sure, no snow, but I wouldn't drive
the M3 in the snow regardless (that's what an old 325iX is built for).
Mileage is actually very good, including many track days. At about $190
each, they're a bargain compared to the higher-end street tires.
- Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Yew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UUC] Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
> The KDW2 seems to be the upcoming favorite trackable street tire on the
> west coast. It's relatively cheap, and its wet grip is said to be very
> good.
>
> --Andre
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:20:34 -0700
From: bbarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Rob,
What size(s) RA1 do you use, since I don't see them made in a
245/40, and how many miles do you get out of them? How do these compare
to the T1R street tire?
tia,
Barry
Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks wrote:
> With great amusement, I listened to students discuss "track" tires at WGI
> this weekend. Not one of them mentioned an actual track tire.
>
> While street tires like the KDW2 might be better than other street tires at
> the track, it simply makes no sense.
>
> For very reasonable money, the Toyo RA1 on a set of Kosei K1s (or similar
> affordable wheels) will work immensely better, last much longer, and won't
> destroy your expensive street tires.
>
> But of course, I did not want to reveal to the class that I was insane... I
> think the best street tire is the RA1 and have been using them year-round
> for the past two years on my '98 M3. Sure, no snow, but I wouldn't drive
> the M3 in the snow regardless (that's what an old 325iX is built for).
> Mileage is actually very good, including many track days. At about $190
> each, they're a bargain compared to the higher-end street tires.
>
> - Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andre Yew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
>
>
>
>> The KDW2 seems to be the upcoming favorite trackable street tire on the
>> west coast. It's relatively cheap, and its wet grip is said to be very
>> good.
>>
>> --Andre
>>
>
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>
>
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>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:48:09 -0400
From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
RA1s are oversized, so for the E36, you would use the 235/40-17. It's about
as much rubber as you can get in without rolling the fenders, equal to a 245
in a mainstream street tire.
Again, my mileage is not indicative of pure street driving. I would say I
got about 10K miles out of a set, including about 8-10 track days and 8-10
auto-x days.
After that, they're still good - just completely smooth. They're now
serving duty as rain tires for one of our JP racecars.
T1-R is a street tire, plain and simple. A very good performance street
tire, but not the same as the RA1 track tire.
- Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "bbarry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [UUC] Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
> Rob,
> What size(s) RA1 do you use, since I don't see them made in a
> 245/40, and how many miles do you get out of them? How do these compare
> to the T1R street tire?
> tia,
> Barry
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:59:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: Goodyear F1GsD3 or BFG TA KDW2?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, May 15, 2007 11:06 am, Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks said:
> But of course, I did not want to reveal to the class that I was insane...
> I
> think the best street tire is the RA1 and have been using them year-round
> for the past two years on my '98 M3.
While not quite as "insane" as Rob :-) I use RA-1s on the race car as
"street" and non-race-event tires. They work great for getting to/from the
track and for running non-race events and even race event practice
sessions. With that type of use I get probably similar mileage: ~10,000
miles (12-13,000 miles actual on the odometer, but some of that mileage is
on other tires).
Also used 'em for several years as DE tires on the M3.
My 2 cents,
Jim Bassett
1998 M3/4
1993 325is #44 JP
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:08:39 -0400
From: "M540" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: E46 Bumper Trim Strip
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Can anyone tell me the proper part name and/or number for the center black
plastic trim strip for the front bumper on a 330i Sedan (ZHP if that
matters)? The car currently has the piece with an integrated plastic
license plate holder and I'm looking for the plain, no-plate version. I
understand both came with the cars new, but needless to say one must still
reside with the PO. I've Googled high and low but must not be calling it
the right thing.
Thank you in advance,
Kevin
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
Subject: Re: E46 Bumper Trim Strip
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, May 15, 2007 10:08 am, M540 said:
> Can anyone tell me the proper part name and/or number for the center black
> plastic trim strip for the front bumper on a 330i Sedan (ZHP if that
> matters)?
I know you're not new here, have you not heard of:
http://realoem.com/bmw/
:-)
(Hint: look under "Vehicle Trim".)
Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:35:21 -0400
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: M540 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, uuc Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: E46 Bumper Trim Strip
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
What will you do about the holes drilled in the bumper? I haven't
looked at a late E46, but the early ones required two self tapping
screws to be run through the front, painted, bumper cover to secure the
license plate bracket.
Brett Anderson
KMS
M540 wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the proper part name and/or number for the center black
> plastic trim strip for the front bumper on a 330i Sedan (ZHP if that
> matters)? The car currently has the piece with an integrated plastic
> license plate holder and I'm looking for the plain, no-plate version. I
> understand both came with the cars new, but needless to say one must still
> reside with the PO. I've Googled high and low but must not be calling it
> the right thing.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Kevin
>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 14:16:30 -0400
From: "M540" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'KMS- Brett Anderson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"'uuc Digest'" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: E46 Bumper Trim Strip
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brett,
Thank you for pointing this out, I'm glad I checked and I hope I'm right. I
won't claim to know what I am doing, but looking at this one it appears the
only screws holding the plate bracket on go in vertically under the bumper
into pre-existing holes (hidden from normal view) and in horizontally near
the top where the new bracketless bumper strip will cover them. I'll know
for sure after blowing $20 and pulling it all apart, but this is what I can
tell just by prying it up now. FWIW, the car is a 4/2003 build date (with
the ZHP bumper of course).
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: KMS- Brett Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:35 PM
To: M540; uuc Digest
Subject: Re: [UUC] E46 Bumper Trim Strip
What will you do about the holes drilled in the bumper? I haven't
looked at a late E46, but the early ones required two self tapping
screws to be run through the front, painted, bumper cover to secure the
license plate bracket.
Brett Anderson
KMS
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:16:20 -0700
From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com>
Subject: Re: E46 Bumper Trim Strip
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 10:08 AM 5/15/2007, M540 wrote:
BMW calls it several different names (protect strip, filler strip,
etc.). And yes, it matters if its a ZHP or not, since non-sport
facelift 330s use a different piece than all pre-facelift, all sport,
and all M Sport (ZHP) bumpers.
All US cars come with the US plate mount strip. I've seen them at
the VPC come off the boat this way.
I have the delete strip on my own car, and as long as I stay in my
part of town, I seem to be OK WRT front plate citations.
51 11 8 195 304 for pre-facelift std, M Tech and M Sport
51 11 7 030 611 for post-facelift std. 'flat' bumpers
Coupes are a completely different animal as they have a prepainted
standalone bracket that comes in the trunk that the dealers screw on
with self-tapping screws into the bumper shell. The only visible
screw holes you might need to worry about with the sedan are ones
that may be there from someone using long screws on the bottom holes
of the plate, going through and getting to the bumper.
>Can anyone tell me the proper part name and/or number for the center black
>plastic trim strip for the front bumper on a 330i Sedan (ZHP if that
>matters)? The car currently has the piece with an integrated plastic
>license plate holder and I'm looking for the plain, no-plate version. I
>understand both came with the cars new, but needless to say one must still
>reside with the PO. I've Googled high and low but must not be calling it
>the right thing.
>
>Thank you in advance,
>
>Kevin
>
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>
>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services
Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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