Dear John,

I surely hope that the recent Nobel Prize will encourage young people
to get into into the fields of computational biology and chemistry.  

Moreover, X-ray sources are undergoing new exciting developments 
(e.g., XFELs) that require new computational approaches, as does 
cryo-EM.

Cheers,
Axel

On Oct 10, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Jrh <jrhelliw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Sacha, Dear Colleagues,
> I also offer my congratulations to the Chemistry Nobellists of yesterday. A 
> very exciting and significant event, which I enjoyed. I recall when my PhD 
> student, Gail Bradbrook, spoke about our harnessing these exciting methods in 
> our crystallographic and structural chemistry concanavalin A saccharide 
> studies, to crystallographers, there was a wide spread of reactions. Ie from 
> scepticism to shared excitement. As an example of Gail's work see eg 
> http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/1998/ft/a800429c/unauth#!divAbstract
> It is sometimes said that a Nobel Prize kills a field. I think we can say 
> instead that it is mature. But, to couple with the discussion on  peer 
> review; there are weaknesses in conventional ie the usual peer review; it 
> does not cope well with 'risk and adventure' results. post publication peer 
> review is an interesting solution, which in my view should  be tried. This 
> bulletin board itself in fact is a great initiative, institution actually, 
> which helps develops community views of results and trends. 
> Just my two pennies worth,
> Greetings,
> John
> 
> Prof John R Helliwell DSc FInstP CPhys FRSC CChem F Soc Biol.
> Chair School of Chemistry, University of Manchester, Athena Swan Team.
> http://www.chemistry.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/athena/index.html
> 
> 
> 
> On 10 Oct 2013, at 09:26, Alexandre OURJOUMTSEV <sa...@igbmc.fr> wrote:
> 
>> Hello to everybody,
>> 
>> Alex, it was a great idea to initiate the conversation sending 
>> congratulations to our colleagues !
>> Bob, it was another great idea, when congratulating the Winners, to remind 
>> us of the framework.
>> 
>> As one of my colleagues pointed out, we shall also give a lot of credits to 
>> Shneior Lifson who was in the very origins of these works, ideas and 
>> programs (see the paper by M.Levitt "The birth of computational structural 
>> biology", Nature Structural & Molecuar Biology, 8, 392-393 (2001);  
>> http://www.nature.com/nsmb/journal/v8/n5/full/nsb0501_392.html ). 
>> 
>> Older crystallographers may remember a fundamental paper by Levitt & Lifson 
>> (1969).
>> 
>> With best wishes,
>> 
>> Sacha Urzhumtsev
>> 
>> 
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] De la part de Sweet, 
>> Robert
>> Envoyé : mercredi 9 octobre 2013 23:52
>> À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] השב: [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel 
>> committee decision?
>> 
>> It deserves comment!!  I've been too busy talking with my friends about it 
>> to think of CCP4.
>> 
>> This morning on NPR I heard Karplus's name and started to whoop and holler, 
>> and by the time they got to Arieh I realized they had a Hat Trick!!  It's a 
>> spectacular thing that this field should get recognition!
>> 
>> An interesting feature to me is that, at least when I was following the 
>> field, these three use physics to do their work, modeling with carefully 
>> estimated spring constants, etc., and eventually QM results. Those who use 
>> phenomenology -- hydrophobic volumes, who likes to lie next to whom, etc. -- 
>> are extremely effective (you know who they are), and they deserve credit.  
>> But they (we, some years ago) stand on the shoulders of the achievements of 
>> these three.
>> 
>> It's good to remember the late, great, Tony Jack, cut down before reaching 
>> his prime. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: CCP4 bulletin board [CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Nat Echols 
>> [nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:31 PM
>> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] השב: [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel 
>> committee decision?
>> 
>> Levitt also contributed to DEN refinement (Schroder et al. 2007, 2010).
>> 
>> -Nat
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Boaz Shaanan 
>> <bshaa...@bgu.ac.il<mailto:bshaa...@bgu.ac.il>> wrote:
>> Good point. Now since you mentioned contributions of the recent Nobel 
>> laureates to crystallography Mike Levitt also had a significant contribution 
>> through the by now forgotten Jack-Levitt refinement which to the best of my 
>> knowledge was the first time that x-ray term was added to the energy 
>> minimization algorithm. I think I'm right about this. This was later adapted 
>> by Axel Brunger in Xplor and other progrmas followed.
>> Cheers, Boaz
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- הודעה מקורית --------
>> מאת Alexander Aleshin 
>> <aales...@sanfordburnham.org<mailto:aales...@sanfordburnham.org>>
>> תאריך: 10/10/2013 0:07 (GMT+02:00)
>> אל CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
>> נושא [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel committee decision?
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry for a provocative question, but I am surprised why nobody 
>> comments/congratulations laureates with regard to recently awarded Nobel 
>> prizes? However, one of laureates  in chemistry contributed to a popular 
>> method in computational crystallography.
>> CHARMM -> XPLOR -> CNS -> PHENIX->…
>> 
>> Alex Aleshin
>> <Levitt_2001_NatureStrBiol_8_392-393.pdf>

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