On 3/4/2010 8:04 AM, Claire Wood wrote:
Sorry, I'm a bit confused - probably as a result of travelling alot
yesterday, getting home late and being extremely tired today.

Are you proposing to change Writer so that you can incorporate something
similar to the way Framemaker applies Master Documents to a Page Layout
design and the Book features that Framemaker has, so you can add files and
then generate an automatic TOC and control your numbering, cross
referencing, etc centrally?  Then from that to build an onscreen tutorial to
tell people how to use that functionality?

Don't forget though that alot of the tweaking especially when Framemaker
builds books is done in the Reference Page, where the format for the TOC,
Index, any other things you use regularly in the document are defined.
Scripts are added there too.  Writers can also use the Reference page as a
dumping ground.

Claire

What did you mean with your question about changing Writer? Did you mean changing the Writer user guide or did you mean changing Writer itself via its use of macros? Actually, both are applicable.

The master-documents chapter in the Writer guide could be adapted for use as a mini-tutorial itself if a collection of a few simple chapters were parked online and being available as source documents for its master-documents chapter, along with a completed folder containing the files for a successful minibook example. This exercise could show how basic master documents work in general.

However, an additional, standalone user guide (or tutorial) of both master documents and macros at an intermediate to an advanced level is better than complicating the Writer user guide. A standalone manual of these more involved topics can be extended, making it somewhat open ended. Having it included as an appendix to the Writer Guide would be inappropriate due to both its size and learning-curve effort expected of their users.

As it is, the Writer Guide treatment of both macros and master documents is not deep enough for advanced-level projects involving those topics. Thus, an intermediate-level tutorial in this advanced manual could be devised whereby users would take our own edited chapter files and gain an expertise making their own Writer user guides or Calc user guides, etc. Another tutorial could deal with using (or creating) macros and such for extending the Writer component for increasing its usefulness.

As is, Writer does not compare well with standard Adobe FrameMaker for creating large documernts, which can be further extended through its use of FrameScripts and by utilizing the FrameMaker Development Kit, which can modify the FrameMaker GUI itself. So, creating and further expanding another OOo user guide could expand the use of Writer into mostly uncharted waters, for the vast majority of its users.


Gary



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