Sounds good to me!
regards,
Francois
On 06/12/2022 13:18, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
Oh and also Francois said he’s volunteer.
So I would propose to reshape the PMC to include volunteer guys.
Thoughts ?
Regards
JB
Le mar. 6 déc. 2022 à 13:12, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> a
écrit :
Hi
I was about to reply.
As it seems we have interest and volunteers, if the current PMC members
agree, we could extend the PMC to have new active people.
As said I’m volunteer with Enrico to maintain jclouds as it used in other
Apache projects.
What the other PMC members are thinking ?
Regards
JB
Le dim. 4 déc. 2022 à 16:32, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
Any updates here?
Enrico
Il Mer 16 Nov 2022, 16:53 Juan Cabrerizo <j...@cloudsoft.io> ha scritto:
I concur with Enrico,
First warranty the Jclouds is patched when needed. it has to be secure.
Then keep alive the community of users/dependent projects responding to
issues and requests.
Adding new cloud providers features seems to be for me the next step,
but
it depends on the evolution on the necessities and other tooling.
That's what I had in mind when I volunteered and I think is enough for
keeping live the project.
Juan
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 11:14, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Il giorno lun 14 nov 2022 alle ore 11:59 Andrew Gaul <g...@apache.org
ha scritto:
I would like to understand what the three potential PMC members
plan to
do since jclouds already has many absentee committers and PMCs. For
example I seen only one commit in the last 5 years and no previous
help
testing releases. Repeating my original mail:
Ideally the community could step up to sustain the project, e.g.,
reviewing pull requests, fixing issues, responding to mailing list
queries, and eventually becoming committers themselves. Does
anyone
have a multi-year interest in jclouds that wants to help out?
jclouds is also a critical dependency for my project S3Proxy which
accounts for 25% of jclouds Maven Central downloads. I would like
to
see Apache jclouds continue instead of creating a private fork but
currently I do most of the maintenance with little community
support.
How will this change under a new PMC set?
(I am also volunteering, as posted in a previous message).
In order to keep a project alive we must at least guarantee:
- security fixes
- responding to user requests
There are other Apache projects that are widely used but they don't
need many new features
and they are pretty stable,
In JClouds I would expect some work to follow the new features of the
supported providers,
but this is not strictly needed, it depends on users.
Apart from "keeping it alive" we could try to boost it a little bit by
engaging more with the well known
projects that use it and ask them to advertise more about how they use
JClouds
my 2 cents
Enrico
On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 05:53:18AM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré
wrote:
Hi guys,
thanks for your update !
I propose to prepare a quick plan describing:
1. PMC set proposal
2. Roadmap/ideas for jclouds future (I would like to mention Karaf
Minho here)
3. Send the proposal on the mailing list to move forward on vote
and
inform the board
Thoughts ?
Regards
JB
On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 11:12 AM Juan Cabrerizo <
j...@cloudsoft.io>
wrote:
Hi, I'm a PMC member of Brooklyn, happy to try to help JClouds
and
joining
the committee. It's a core dependency for us.
Regards
Juan
On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 at 16:22, Geoff Macartney <
geom...@apache.org>
wrote:
I would also be willing to join the Jclouds PMC if that would
be
helpful.
Regards
Geoff
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:15, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
j...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
I’m in ;)
Regards
JB
Le jeu. 10 nov. 2022 à 11:56, fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> a
écrit :
Hi,
After some discussions with JB, we are ok to propose our
help
to join
the PMC of JCloud and contribute to keep the project
alive if
anybody
is
ok.
Regards,
Francois
On 09/11/2022 21:57, Geoff Macartney wrote:
Hello Andrew, and Jclouds PMC,
I'm sorry to be so late in replying to this, I confess I
had
missed
it
when it was sent last month and only became aware of it
today.
Speaking as a member of the Apache Brooklyn PMC I must
confess I am
sad to hear this proposal. Jclouds is one of our most
critical
dependencies, and I would worry about the implications
for
Brooklyn
if
Jclouds moved to the Attic. I am worried in any case
about
the
implications of the lower activity in the community, but
that is
another issue.
I have been refreshing my memory about the PMC
guidelines
on
moving
to
the Attic [1]. These note that
"In summary, the only reason for a project to move to
the
Attic is
lack of oversight due to an insufficient number of
active
PMC
members"
(the minimum being three), and that electing willing
community
members
to the PMC would be the best way to keep it viable. If
the
worst
comes
to the worst "the Board can "reboot" a PMC by
re-establishing it with
a new or modified PMC".
Perhaps it would be worth doing a formal [VOTE] poll
within
Jclouds
PMC itself to see if at least three PMC members would be
willing to
continue to carry out that role? If not, maybe other
options
could be
explored before deciding to move to the Attic, such as
some
community
members joining the PMC.
What do you think?
Kind regards
Geoff
[1] https://apache.org/dev/pmc#move-to-attic
On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 14:03, Andrew Gaul <
g...@apache.org
wrote:
jclouds development has slowed from 123 commits from 26
contributors in
2018 to just 24 from 6 contributors in 2022. This is
despite
growing
downloads over the last 12 months from 50,000 to 80,000
for
jclouds-core
alone. Unfortunately the number of active committers
has
shrunk
and we
will soon lack quorum for future releases. This means
that
the
project
must move to the Apache attic.
Ideally the community could step up to sustain the
project,
e.g.,
reviewing pull requests, fixing issues, responding to
mailing list
queries, and eventually becoming committers themselves.
Does anyone
have a multi-year interest in jclouds that wants to
help
out?
If not, I will cut a final 2.6.0 release before
retiring
the
project.
--
Andrew Gaul
http://gaul.org/
--
--
François
--
Juan Cabrerizo
Senior Software Engineer
*Cloudsoft <https://cloudsoft.io/> *| Bringing Business to the
Cloud
j...@cloudsoft.io
https://www.linkedin.com/in/juancabrerizo
https://github.com/jcabrerizo
<https://github.com/jcabrerizo>
--
Andrew Gaul
http://gaul.org/
--
Juan Cabrerizo
Senior Software Engineer
*Cloudsoft <https://cloudsoft.io/> *| Bringing Business to the Cloud
j...@cloudsoft.io
https://www.linkedin.com/in/juancabrerizo
https://github.com/jcabrerizo
<https://github.com/jcabrerizo>
