On Monday 29 December 2003 07:02 pm, Richard Morrell wrote:
> >IF you are looking for another product that works well and is VERY similar
> > to the above products you could look into clark-connect. It is rock solid
> > AND comforms to GPL completely.
>
> Bob, I like what Clark Connect and their CEO stand for, he's a great guy
> who I respect a lot, however the product isn't rock solid. Go install
> 2.0 (paid for version). Run Nessus against it, go look at versions of
> Squid, Spam Asssassin and particularly Squirrelmail, PHP and other
> services. Then post its rock solid.

Hey Ricard;

Thanxs for the very polite reply.

Well I was referring to 2.1 which has been out for almost a month now. It is a 
good product and seems very solid to me. YMMV of course. I agree that 2.0 was 
less than stellar, but the "clark" staff also was quick to point out that it 
was an interim, sorta test release. I think ALL distributions have some 
releases that are less than others.

Not sure about the Nessus "tests" per say, so I have no reason to doubt what 
you say.

>
> It shows great great thought, great APT updater, brilliantly designed
> commerce interface and re-billing, good conceptual awareness of how it
> should work. Installer is dated but functional (would be a quick
> rewrite). It doesn't handle Samba permissions well, or the intelligent
> hosting of domains in a way that would be simple to modify.

Well intelligent people speaking intelligently can disagree with this. I don't 
have a problem in this area per say, but I can definitely see what you are 
referring to. Samba works fine here with clark-connect, including 
permissions, so I guess I am not sure what you are referring to on that 
particular item. I also host domains with it and find it essentially fine, no 
problemos.

>
> I'm not here to knock anyone but please don't compare it to SME, SME is
> an engineered product that is a SUV compared to ClarkConnects small
> family sports hatchback. Both well thought out but you're not comparing
> apples and apples.

Well Mitel's proprietary product is very good. SME is good too, but a lesser 
product in many respects. AS such, I was comparing to it; well sorta 
comparing it SME specifically by saying it was "similar". For many folks it 
is all the similarity they need or want and then becomes VERY similar. 
Perhaps I should have been more specific. Thanxs for the heads up.

Hey and thanxs Richard for not lambasting me for having an opinion that is not 
exactly as yours. Nice to see that on this list for a change.

Very best regards;

Bob Finch
>
> Richard
>
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