In Vax/VMS world we used a technique called "spawning" another process. Seems there should be SOMETHING similar in Windows. In fact it should be even easier since DQSD has no need to stay "attached" to the spawned process and check its exit status.
Anyway I did most of my work in FORTRAN, COBOL and Assembler on minis and mainframes. Don't know much about Windows development environment. Which source code file actually does the call to run the browser? I am still looking for a way to "trick" DQSD into staring IE 32 bit but no joy so far. Well Adobe has 64 bit Flash Player Beta add-ons for *nix. What/why they are delaying on a Windows 64 bit is weird. I suspect that will change, but when? I don't believe Adobe has a 64 bit Shockwave version yet either. -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:35 PM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed The problem is, in a way, hard coded by the methods used. DQSD runs as a DLL in Windows Explorer. As such, it makes "inproc" or in-process calls to other executables. 64-bit processes can't make 32-bit calls, (and 32-bit processes can't make 64-bit calls). I am NOT a developer, far from it, but it should be technically possible to fork off the call in a way that would allow it to call the 32-bit IE. But doing so is both non-trivial in Windows (which doesn't really _do_ forks), and a significant shift from how the existing 32-bit code works. The intent was to not have two different code bases, which would be required if we changed the way the browser gets called. Charlie. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Nix [mailto:ni...@charter.net] > Sent: May-14-09 8:25 AM > To: 'DQSD users mailing list' > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > All, > > Perhaps this has been mentioned before, perhaps not. > > Problem: DQSDx64 by default runs the 64 Bit IEXPLORE.EXE. > > This is a problem because many add-ons do not (yet) support the 64 bit > IEXPLORE. > > Of particular note is Adobe Flash Player v10. > > DQSDx64 will, by default run C:\Program Files\Internet > Explorer\iexplore.exe > > In Windows 7 64 Bit that is the 64 bit version of IE. > > The 32 bit version of IE is located, by default, in C:\Program Files > (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe > > I would think that most people (including me!) would want to use the 32 > bit > IE for compatibility purposes. > > I did a quick check for an easy way to change the DQSDx64 target IE exe > file > but did not see one. Is it hard coded? > > > Thanks! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:38 AM > To: DQSD users mailing list > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > James, > > Nice, thanks! > > One thing that stands out to me is the need to Unblock the entire > archive, which presumably goes through the contents of the .zip and > unblocks every single file. > > If only we could package this as an installer instead, that problem > would go away. Problem is, we don't have any experience with free > installer packages that support 64-bit Windows. > > - Kim > > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 23:42, James Nix <ni...@charter.net> wrote: > > Well, good news and bad news. > > > > The good news is I have it working. > > > > The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation > screws > up > > in a certain way. See notes below!!! > > > > The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without > > disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every > Windows > > UAC "Confirm this step" message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress > most > > of them anyway. > > > > 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will > > remember. :-) > > > > 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select > Properties. > At > > the bottom of the dialog there may be a message > > > > "Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked > to > help > > protect this computer" > > > > Click the "Unblock" button. Click "Apply" then close the Properties > dialog. > > > > 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY > MESSAGE!!!! > > > > 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used > > C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) > into > > C:\Temp. > > > > 5) Navigate to C:\Temp\DQSDx64. Check a couple of .JS files and > verify > > that the files do not have the "Security" message in their Properties > (see > > step 2). > > > > 6) Create a new desktop shortcut - Target: CMD.EXE ; Name "Command > Window" > > > > 7) CREATE A SYSTEM RESTORE POINT. IF THE INSTALLATION SCREWS UP THE > DQSD > > CLOCK SCRIPT ERROR WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE DQSD. THE EASIEST > "FIX" > > IT IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE. > > > > 8) Right click the Command Window shortcut created in step 6 and click > "Run > > as Administrator" > > > > 9) In the command window navigate to the installation folder > > "C:\Temp\DQSDx64" (or where the Unzipped files are). > > > > 10) Type SETUPX64.CMD - follow the prompts. > > > > 11) When install is complete, with no errors (Hope!) you will have > to > > right click the taskbar and select Toolbars twice before Quick Search > > appears. > > > > NOTES: There is no entry in "Programs and Features" to > remove/uninstall > > DQSDx64. I could not find one in the install folder either. Also, > once > you > > have turned the toolbar "on" by right clicking the Taskbar>Toolbars > any > > attempt to turn it "off" causes Explorer to restart with DQSD still > there. > > Additionally if the installation has javascript errors in the CLOCK.JS > (?) > > for whatever reason, it is virtually impossible to delete the install > folder > > in order to start over/reinstall, even when booting to SAFE MODE. > That is > > the why the RESTORE POINT above is important. If the install fails - > you > > can restore your system. Should an error crop up in the future, the > only > > thing I can think of off-hand is to boot to a command prompt an delete > the > > installation folder manually. > > > > Whew.... I hope I got all that right! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are not followed you may find it diff > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] > > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:48 PM > > To: DQSD users mailing list > > Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > > > > I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm > not > > confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this > point, > and > > I think we need to find a way to work within the MS guidelines if we > don't > > want to face this every time they ship a new version. Perhaps as a > Windows > > Gadget? > > > > Charlie. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: May-11-09 11:08 AM > >> To: DQSD users mailing list > >> Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed > >> > >> Hi James, > >> > >> In theory, you should just unpack the zip and run setupx64.cmd from > >> the root directory as administrator. I don't know if there are any > >> specifics related to Windows 7. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> - Kim > >> > >> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 17:34, James Nix <ni...@charter.net> wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > I am trying to install the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package on a > Windows > >> 7 RC1 > >> > 64 bit system. > >> > > >> > I never have used the 64 bit installation kit before. > >> > > >> > So far I have had no luck but that may be due to my mistakes. > >> > > >> > Has anyone installed to the Windows 7 RC1 64 bit system before? > >> > > >> > If so, please provide instructions. > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance! > >> > > >> > James C Nix > >> > ni...@charter.net > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > >> -------- > >> > The NEW KODAK i700 Series Scanners deliver under ANY circumstances! > >> Your > >> > production scanning environment may not be a perfect world - but > >> thanks to > >> > Kodak, there's a perfect scanner to get the job done! 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