Hi Bob,

You may want to qualify that with depending on your QTH and antenna system. 
Well and goal...

One often hears how impossible it is to be competitive or even work anyone
on 160 without power. Power may make some things easier, but even that won't
help without a decent antenna, skill, timing and a reasonably quiet QTH. 80
is a bit better, but probably because more folks operate there than on 160.

I'm always tickled when I beat QRO folks out in pileups or just catch a new
one running LP and even QRP on 160. Listening and thinking pay off big time
running LP and QRP...

If someone wants QRP WAS and DXCC on the top band, assuming they have a
decent location and antennas, pound hard at it now. The conditions this
season have been outstanding. QRP WAS is doable.

Probably the hardest part is being on the air night after night and catching
the best openings on an otherwise quiet band.

I'm at 113 DXCC running LP since 2005, about 30 DXCC QRP (mostly in the last
year).

No four square here ;o)

73,
Julius
n2wn


ROBERT CARROLL-4 wrote:
> 
> I'd say on 160m that although DXCC is possible (or was possible in the
> past)
> on 160m, a high percentage of the contacts I have made on that band are
> not
> possible with QRP. If there is a relatively common DXCC entity (who needs
> another DL?) the odds are good for QRP given good conditions.  If it's a
> rare one near the noise floor and you aren't lucky enough to be the first
> to
> hear it and if conditions are not ideal, you are going to have to crack a
> pileup--and if you are not QRO there is little chance of that on 160m. 
> That
> is my experience--which is of course subjective.  But you can be a little
> more objective if you look at the 160m DXCC list maintained my ARRL. 
> Start
> at the top and work down till you find a few QRP operators.  There are
> none
> for a long, long time.
> 
> The thrill of working BY on 160m at 1.5 kw is to me just as satisfying as
> working 3A on 160m with 5w.  They are just very different activities, both
> a
> lot of fun.
> 
> Bob W2WG
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ellington
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> To: dw; Elecraft_List
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
> 
> Obviously a troll.
> 
> Steve Ellington
> n...@carolina.rr.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dw" <bw...@fastmail.fm>
> To: "Elecraft_List" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:34 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
> 
> 
> A few years back in our little farming community, there was a fellow
> whose name was Francis.
> Francis was an avid hunter.
> At this time, the rumor went around the community that
> Francis had been fined for deer jacking.
> Out of his truck one night, with a spot light, he took a shot at a
> plastic deer planted by game wardens.
> Soon it became a joke...Sir Francis the deer slayer.
> 
> Something within me seemed to understand Francis' point of view.
> He was a pragmatist... He had little interest in the thrill of the hunt.
> He was focused on the efficiency of the catch.
> 
> Although QRO is far from illegal, it does seem to be somewhat more
> focused on the efficiency of the catch than the thrill of the hunt.
> So there is a certain un-romantic reality to QRO vs. QRP.
> 
> I'm wondering, what percentage of contacts you've made QRO, that you
> would estimate as not attainable QRP.
> 
> I hope I didn't break the list rules getting off-topic with the story
> :~/
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