To continue, I have input about half the paragraphs of a paper draft I am 
writing. It found a small error I made. It also made a couple of remarkable 
extrapolations of this work. Since I have been doing this the last couple 
of weeks I have generated a lot of text. GPT-4 is capable of interpreting 
and generating LaTeX mathematics. So my discussions have become very 
advanced. 

This does make me ponder what is the relationship between consciousness and 
intelligence. I suspect GPT-4 and other AI systems may be intelligent, but 
they are so without underlying consciousness. Our intelligence is in a 
sense built upon a pore-existing substratum of sentience. My dogs are 
sentient, but when it comes to numerical intelligence they have none, and 
indeed very poor spatial sense. They are though socially intelligent and 
understand far more words than most people are aware of. Further, what we 
subjectively experience as consciousness is built on a deeper substrate of 
biological activity.

LC

On Friday, May 12, 2023 at 4:07:44 AM UTC-5 John Clark wrote:

> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 6:33 PM Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > I* have found 2 mistakes it* [GPT-4] *has made. It has caught me on a 
>> few errors as well.*
>>
>
> To me that sounds like very impressive performance. If you were working 
> with a human colleague who did the same thing would you hesitate in saying 
> he was exhibiting some degree of intelligence? 
>
> * > It is a very good emulator of intelligence.*
>>
>
> What's the difference between being intelligent and emulating intelligence?
>   It must be more than the degree of squishiness of the brain.
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>> *> It also is proving to be a decent first check on my work. It might be 
>> said it passes some criterion for Turing tests, though I have often thought 
>> this idea was old fashioned in a way. *
>>
>
> Well, it is old I'll grant you that. Turing didn't invent the "Turing 
> Test", he just pointed out something that was ancient, that we use 
> everyday, and was so accepted and ubiquitous that nobody had given it much 
> thought before. I'm sure you, just like everybody else, has at one time or 
> another in your life encountered people who you consider to be brilliant 
> and people who you consider to be stupid, when making your determination, 
> if you did not use the Turing Test (which is basically just observing 
> behavior and judging if it's intelligent ) what method did you use ? How in 
> the world can you judge if something is intelligent or not except by 
> observing if it does anything intelligent?
>
> John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
> oi2
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