A manifestation similar to other manifestations during the pre-Nazi and Nazi era -- not necessarily cocreators, simply there concurrently.
Is that clear? *I want every person to be complete in themselves. Your himsa has no placein my mission.* On 10/15/07, feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So the implication is that MMY, like the Nazis, has prepared his > people "to be nonchalant about mass murder by instilling New Age > principles in them in advance of the violence." Any shred of evidence > to support this preposterous notion? > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > His point, Angela, seems to be that your paralleling the TMO and > Nazi Germany is not to be taken seriously because, unlike the Nazis, > the movement has never committed violence. True. However, fiesty > Feste, Angela did already address this fact in her first or second > post on the subject. She said the Third Reich prepared its people to > be nonchalant about mass murder by instilling New Age principles in > them in advance of the violence. So the fact that violence has not yet > erupted in the current situation could mean we're not yet at that stage. > > > > I believe, though, Angela, that Maharishi's movement can't be > singled out for instilling in our culture ideas that are damaging to > individual responsibility, discriminating thought, and the integrity > of the individual ego. The same attitude is coming from all > directions, not just TM. We're finding it in Buddhism (as it's usually > taught in the West), Eckart Tolle, certainly in Byron Katie, and very > strongly in the Neo-Advaitin gurus. The good parts of Eastern > philosophy that I glommed onto as a girl have pretty much been > forgotten and taken over by what is either distortions of the original > teachings or -- maybe the insidiousness was there all along and I was > too young to see it. MMY's movement is becoming scary with the rajas > stuff and is setting itself up in a way that could turn militant. As > such it stands out as particularly suspect. But I believe something > deeper is afoot, which all these "spiritual" movements are serving in > concert with each other. > > > > - Bronte > > > > > > > > Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your first question misses my point so completely, I'm at > a loss as to how to respond. And no, it's not hard to live in this > town. I chose it and love it here. a > > > > feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How many Jews has Maharishi > murdered? How many death camps has he set up? > > > > It must be hard for you living in this town, surrounded by a movement > > that resembles the Nazis so closely. > > > > It seems to me that your mind is so distorted, heaven knows by what, > > that you cannot make clear distinctions between things. > > > > But welcome to this board. You truly belong here. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander > > <mailander111@> wrote: > > > > > > I have no idea what you mean when you say, "And are these same ideas > > being cloned onto splinter satsang groups?" As for your other > > question, "Are there significant parallels between the Third Reich and > > Mahesh's spiritual movement, I'd say definitely there are. Name any > > article of faith you find repeated in this town, name any of the often > > repeated quotes of things Mahesh is supposed to have said, and it was > > repeated and believed in Nazi Germany. They didn't call it > > enlightenment, but they were all striving to be the Ubermensch. It > > meant basically the same thing. Devotion to the Guru was important, > > and the Guru, for the SS, was Hitler. They thought of themselves as > > pure warriors monks. They could get married, of course, but they had > > to have permission from on high, and the girl had to pass muster. > > Purity of the nervous system was purity of the blood. They believed in > > karma, and in performing action established in Being. They believed > > in detachment and they believed > > > in higher states of consciousness. They had nine of them. Gotta > > run. a > > > > > > Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: > > > > > > Yes, I totally agree. Hitler was used by those who still want to > > establish the New World Order. In fact, he was told in those exact > > terms, New World Order, that he would be "instrumental" in > > establishing it. He wasn't told that he'd only be a step along the > > way, though. He believed he was to be the big enchilada---the > > thousand-year Reich was to be sat-yuga. The antisemitism was not real > > in the same sense that the terrorists we're all afraid of today are > > not real. Hitler needed a single enemy to focus the people's attention > > on. There is even some evidence that Jews supplied him with the > > notion that they could be that single enemy. It's not conclusive > > evidence, but certainly the Warburgs were involved in it, in spite of > > the fact that Paul Warburg lost two close relatives in the death > > camps. a > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there really significant parallels between the Third Reich and > > Mahesh "yogis" spiritual movement though? And are these same ideas > > being cloned onto splinter satsang groups? > > > > > > > > > Rick posted a very interesting link to a video which purported to be > > by an ex-KGB agent which claimed groups like the KGB were observing > > the TMO for ideas in undermining nations. >
