When did I say Mahesh prepared his people to commit mass murder? These are
conclusions you are drawing, these are not accusations I am making. I'm
beginning to think some folks in Ff don't know how to read. Not all responses
have been on the level of get yourself barefoot into the kitchen, but some
have. Tsk tsk.
"Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer.
Who'd've Thunk It?" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A manifestation similar to other manifestations during the pre-Nazi and Nazi
era -- not necessarily cocreators, simply there concurrently.
Is that clear?
I want every person to be complete in themselves. Your himsa has no place in
my mission.
On 10/15/07, feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So the implication is that
MMY, like the Nazis, has prepared his
people "to be nonchalant about mass murder by instilling New Age
principles in them in advance of the violence." Any shred of evidence
to support this preposterous notion?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> His point, Angela, seems to be that your paralleling the TMO and
Nazi Germany is not to be taken seriously because, unlike the Nazis,
the movement has never committed violence. True. However, fiesty
Feste, Angela did already address this fact in her first or second
post on the subject. She said the Third Reich prepared its people to
be nonchalant about mass murder by instilling New Age principles in
them in advance of the violence. So the fact that violence has not yet
erupted in the current situation could mean we're not yet at that stage.
>
> I believe, though, Angela, that Maharishi's movement can't be
singled out for instilling in our culture ideas that are damaging to
individual responsibility, discriminating thought, and the integrity
of the individual ego. The same attitude is coming from all
directions, not just TM. We're finding it in Buddhism (as it's usually
taught in the West), Eckart Tolle, certainly in Byron Katie, and very
strongly in the Neo-Advaitin gurus. The good parts of Eastern
philosophy that I glommed onto as a girl have pretty much been
forgotten and taken over by what is either distortions of the original
teachings or -- maybe the insidiousness was there all along and I was
too young to see it. MMY's movement is becoming scary with the rajas
stuff and is setting itself up in a way that could turn militant. As
such it stands out as particularly suspect. But I believe something
deeper is afoot, which all these "spiritual" movements are serving in
concert with each other.
>
> - Bronte
>
>
>
> Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your first question misses my point so completely, I'm at
a loss as to how to respond. And no, it's not hard to live in this
town. I chose it and love it here. a
>
> feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How many Jews has Maharishi
murdered? How many death camps has he set up?
>
> It must be hard for you living in this town, surrounded by a movement
> that resembles the Nazis so closely.
>
> It seems to me that your mind is so distorted, heaven knows by what,
> that you cannot make clear distinctions between things.
>
> But welcome to this board. You truly belong here.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
> <mailander111@> wrote:
> >
> > I have no idea what you mean when you say, "And are these same ideas
> being cloned onto splinter satsang groups?" As for your other
> question, "Are there significant parallels between the Third Reich and
> Mahesh's spiritual movement, I'd say definitely there are. Name any
> article of faith you find repeated in this town, name any of the often
> repeated quotes of things Mahesh is supposed to have said, and it was
> repeated and believed in Nazi Germany. They didn't call it
> enlightenment, but they were all striving to be the Ubermensch. It
> meant basically the same thing. Devotion to the Guru was important,
> and the Guru, for the SS, was Hitler. They thought of themselves as
> pure warriors monks. They could get married, of course, but they had
> to have permission from on high, and the girl had to pass muster.
> Purity of the nervous system was purity of the blood. They believed in
> karma, and in performing action established in Being. They believed
> in detachment and they believed
> > in higher states of consciousness. They had nine of them. Gotta
> run. a
> >
> > Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Angela Mailander wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I totally agree. Hitler was used by those who still want to
> establish the New World Order. In fact, he was told in those exact
> terms, New World Order, that he would be "instrumental" in
> establishing it. He wasn't told that he'd only be a step along the
> way, though. He believed he was to be the big enchilada---the
> thousand-year Reich was to be sat-yuga. The antisemitism was not real
> in the same sense that the terrorists we're all afraid of today are
> not real. Hitler needed a single enemy to focus the people's attention
> on. There is even some evidence that Jews supplied him with the
> notion that they could be that single enemy. It's not conclusive
> evidence, but certainly the Warburgs were involved in it, in spite of
> the fact that Paul Warburg lost two close relatives in the death
> camps. a
> >
> >
> >
> > Are there really significant parallels between the Third Reich and
> Mahesh "yogis" spiritual movement though? And are these same ideas
> being cloned onto splinter satsang groups?
> >
> >
> > Rick posted a very interesting link to a video which purported to be
> by an ex-KGB agent which claimed groups like the KGB were observing
> the TMO for ideas in undermining nations.
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