There is corroberating articles and perhaps even video at this link: http://NewUSConcentrationCamps.andmuchmore.com
regarding US concentration camps already built. Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is *a moral conscience*. Only such persons deserve to lead others , in any capacity. *Anything less is a menace to society*. On 10/15/07, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree that the TMO can't be singled out, and if I did, I was in error. > There's tons of New Age stuff around, just as there was in Germany before > and during Hitler. Also, don't forget that I've been a meditator for going > on sixty-two years now. The worst thing I've said about TMO and other New > Age is that they may have been a distraction. They may have prevented > political action when stories of torture first came out. And then, nobody > has touched my question about the Burmese monks giving their lives for > democracy and the political freedom of others while we are doing what > exactly? > > There is some evidence that American concentration camps are already built > (and note I said evidence, I did not say proof), then those who man the gas > valves will most likely not be the TM crowd. On the other hand, none of us > know what we might do when faced with either following a command or facing > torture and death. a > > *Bronte Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > His point, Angela, seems to be that your paralleling the TMO and Nazi > Germany is not to be taken seriously because, unlike the Nazis, the movement > has never committed violence. True. However, fiesty Feste, Angela did > already address this fact in her first or second post on the subject. She > said the Third Reich prepared its people to be nonchalant about mass > murder by instilling New Age principles in them in advance of the violence. > So the fact that violence has not yet erupted in the current situation could > mean we're not yet at that stage. > > I believe, though, Angela, that Maharishi's movement can't be singled out > for instilling in our culture ideas that are damaging to individual > responsibility, discriminating thought, and the integrity of the individual > ego. The same attitude is coming from all directions, not just TM. We're > finding it in Buddhism (as it's usually taught in the West), Eckart Tolle, > certainly in Byron Katie, and very strongly in the Neo-Advaitin gurus. The > good parts of Eastern philosophy that I glommed onto as a girl have pretty > much been forgotten and taken over by what is either distortions of the > original teachings or -- maybe the insidiousness was there all along and I > was too young to see it. MMY's movement is becoming scary with the rajas > stuff and is setting itself up in a way that could turn militant. As such it > stands out as particularly suspect. But I believe something deeper is afoot, > which all these "spiritual" movements are serving in concert with each > other. > > - Bronte > > > > *Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > Your first question misses my point so completely, I'm at a loss as to > how to respond. And no, it's not hard to live in this town. I chose it and > love it here. a > > *feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > How many Jews has Maharishi murdered? How many death camps has he set up? > > > It must be hard for you living in this town, surrounded by a movement > that resembles the Nazis so closely. > > It seems to me that your mind is so distorted, heaven knows by what, > that you cannot make clear distinctions between things. > > But welcome to this board. You truly belong here. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com>, > Angela Mailander > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have no idea what you mean when you say, "And are these same ideas > being cloned onto splinter satsang groups?" As for your other > question, "Are there significant parallels between the Third Reich and > Mahesh's spiritual movement, I'd say definitely there are. Name any > article of faith you find repeated in this town, name any of the often > repeated quotes of things Mahesh is supposed to have said, and it was > repeated and believed in Nazi Germany. They didn't call it > enlightenment, but they were all striving to be the Ubermensch. It > meant basically the same thing. Devotion to the Guru was important, > and the Guru, for the SS, was Hitler. They thought of themselves as > pure warriors monks. They could get married, of course, but they had > to have permission from on high, and the girl had to pass muster. > Purity of the nervous system was purity of the blood. They believed in > karma, and in performing action established in Being. They believed > in detachment and they believed > > in higher states of consciousness. They had nine of them. Gotta > run. a > > > > Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: > > > > Yes, I totally agree. Hitler was used by those who still want to > establish the New World Order. In fact, he was told in those exact > terms, New World Order, that he would be "instrumental" in > establishing it. He wasn't told that he'd only be a step along the > way, though. He believed he was to be the big enchilada---the > thousand-year Reich was to be sat-yuga. The antisemitism was not real > in the same sense that the terrorists we're all afraid of today are > not real. Hitler needed a single enemy to focus the people's attention > on. There is even some evidence that Jews supplied him with the > notion that they could be that single enemy. It's not conclusive > evidence, but certainly the Warburgs were involved in it, in spite of > the fact that Paul Warburg lost two close relatives in the death > camps. a > > > > > > > > Are there really significant parallels between the Third Reich and > Mahesh "yogis" spiritual movement though? And are these same ideas > being cloned onto splinter satsang groups? > > > > > > Rick posted a very interesting link to a video which purported to be > by an ex-KGB agent which claimed groups like the KGB were observing > the TMO for ideas in undermining nations. > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > > ------------------------------ > Need a vacation? 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