Allen wrote:
 > I really object to this attitude that "nastiness" is
 > needed for there to be good scientific outcomes.

We are seeing some extremely bad scientific outcomes. If
nastiness is not needed, what would you suggest?
Science went postmodern some time back, and the Wifi
standard suggests that technology is following.

 > We *all* make mistakes in judgment in supporting
 > positions that turn out to be untenable. The measure
 > of the greatness of a scientist is their willingness
 > to admit it publicly.

But since there seem to be very few great enough for
that, someone else has to say it publicly for them.
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