Great observations as usual Glen... I have lapsed into *listening* to
almost all long-form writing, whether fiction or non.... and it
definitely distorts (torts?) my perception/conception of the
material/subject/message. A corollary to McLuhan's Medium/Message
duality?
I find the "output" side to be more specific (or conscious) for me
than the "input" side. Your point of cuneoform
sticks/quills/pencils/keyboard/gestural-interpreters being part of our
extended phenotype is very apt as is the idea that (if I understand your
intentions) it (intrinsically) effects our interoception and
inter-subjective realities.
I also appreciate your reflections on "mal" and "dis" which I have lived
with all of my life... "judging" or "discriminating" in ways which
themselves are "adaptive" for one suite of purposes but perhaps
"mal"/"dis" for another suite. Having a vector or tensor fitness
function with (arbitrary) signs on the elements doesn't guarantee they
themselves are "fit" for what you think they are.
Do Androids dream of Electric Sheep? Do LLM's (or larger adaptive
systems they are embedded in?) dream of the tensor fields they are
embedded in or create or co-create with the fields of human
activity/history/knowledge/experience/future/manifesting-destiny they
were designed to model/emulate/expose/facilitate/co-evolve with?
I dunno, but it sure is a fascinating milieu to be surfing through in
these auspicious days at the beginning (or end) of the Anthropocene.
- Steve
On 9/7/23 1:01 PM, glen wrote:
Both keyboards and pencils are part of our extended phenotype and play
(multiple) roles in interoception, including the induction of
inter-subjectivity. I've forgotten who it is, but there's someone on
this list who *listens* to our posts, rather than reads them. I tried
that with a blog post this morning during my mobility routine:
https://www.emilkirkegaard.com/p/preferences-can-be-sick-mental-illness
<tangent>
Then because I had an allergic reaction to what I heard, I *read* it
later. Listening to it disgusted me. I came away thinking this
Kirkegaard dude's akin to a scientific racist ... or maybe a
eugenecist. I admit to being a fan of Thomas Szasz back in the day. (A
friend's mom actually dated him at some point ... allegedly.) But at
this point, I've been infected by the Woke Mind Virus; and it's
difficult to stomach phrases like "strict homosexuality is more
disordered than bisexuality." Reading it, however, helped me remember
that maladaption is part and parcel of adaption. Disorder is part and
parcel of order. The "mal" and "dis" prefixes are nothing but
value-laden subjectivity. The goo of reality extruded through the mold
of the author/thinker/subject. For someone like Kirkegaard to claim
they're being "objective" while using the "mal" prefix is not even
wrong. It's just bullshit. Apparently, my Woke Virus infection is
worse near my ears than near my eyes.
</tangent>
But the point is that *which* extended trait you use (pencil, audio,
text, etc.) chooses which interoceptive cycle you engage. And when you
pretend to make such a choice on purpose, at will, any assignation of
fault would be transitive. Which wolf do you feed?
On 9/4/23 10:29, Steve Smith wrote:
I'm not sure my facility with the keyboard actually serves me. As
many of you may suspect, and I suspect so myself, it allows me to be
much less thoughtful and rigorous than I would be in handwriting or
if I had some other throttle or impedance elements between linguistic
centers and "paper"?
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