On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:04 AM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote:

> Biosphere 2 near Tuscon was a similar, even more extreme experiment to
> create a self-sustaining ecosystem. The experiment was considered a failure
> and the whole center belongs now to the University of Arizona.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2
>

The creators of Biosphere II are from Santa Fe and still live here on Synergia
Ranch <https://synergiaranch.com/>.  I am in awe of what their "Theater of
All Possibilities" pulled off in the 60s through the 90s and even today as
a creative collective.  I highly recommend the documentary Spaceship Earth (
https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/spaceship-earth) to give a more
sympathetic background compared to how they were crucified by the press and
later "screwed" by Steve Bannon brought in by Ed Bass to make it more
commercial.

Note the great Howard Odum's point on the Wikipedia you linked:

" There was controversy when the public learned that the project had
allowed an injured member to leave and return, carrying new material
inside. The team claimed the only new supplies brought in were plastic
bags, but others accused them of bringing food and other items. More
criticism was raised when it was learned that, likewise, the project
injected oxygen in January 1993 to make up for a failure in the balance of
the system that resulted in the amount of oxygen steadily declining.[56]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-56> Some thought that
these criticisms ignored that Biosphere 2 was an experiment where the
unexpected would occur, adding to knowledge of how complex ecologies
develop and interact, not a demonstration where everything was known in
advance.[57] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-57> H. T.
Odum <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_T._Odum> noted: "The management
process during 1992–1993 using data to develop theory, test it with
simulation, and apply corrective actions was in the best scientific
tradition. Yet some journalists crucified the management in the public
press, treating the project as if it was an Olympic contest to see how much
could be done without opening the doors".[58]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-58>"


That all said, I understand the larger context in which you ask the
question and the difficulty of creating a self-sustaining ecosystem (and
social system). BTW, I think we learned as much about social systems as
ecosystems with Biosphere II to help us with Biosphere I with all the Steve
Bannon's running around :-)
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