I think you're thinking of Flynn's brother, Morris ;-p
On Fri, Mar 1, 2024, 2:03 PM Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: > SG... so succinct with sufficient but not excess tangents, I bow to you! > > And then I tangent again. Your reference to Bannon's "help" with > Biosphere I (aka earth/gaia/mother-earth) reminds me to offer up: > > American Dharma <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8804284/> > > a documentary by Errol Flynn who is one of Bannon's heroes as a > film-maker. Bannon's adulation of Flynn gave Flynn great access to expose > Bannon for what he is in a larger but not specifically snarky way than most > Bannon hit-pieces. Bannon pretty much shows all of his own colors in his > own unprompted words in the film... Kinda like Trump at every one of his > rallys, but with (slightly) less stakes. > > > On 3/1/24 1:30 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:04 AM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > >> Biosphere 2 near Tuscon was a similar, even more extreme experiment to >> create a self-sustaining ecosystem. The experiment was considered a failure >> and the whole center belongs now to the University of Arizona. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2 >> > > The creators of Biosphere II are from Santa Fe and still live here on Synergia > Ranch <https://synergiaranch.com/>. I am in awe of what their "Theater > of All Possibilities" pulled off in the 60s through the 90s and even today > as a creative collective. I highly recommend the documentary Spaceship > Earth (https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/spaceship-earth) to give a more > sympathetic background compared to how they were crucified by the press and > later "screwed" by Steve Bannon brought in by Ed Bass to make it more > commercial. > > Note the great Howard Odum's point on the Wikipedia you linked: > > " There was controversy when the public learned that the project had > allowed an injured member to leave and return, carrying new material > inside. The team claimed the only new supplies brought in were plastic > bags, but others accused them of bringing food and other items. More > criticism was raised when it was learned that, likewise, the project > injected oxygen in January 1993 to make up for a failure in the balance of > the system that resulted in the amount of oxygen steadily declining.[56] > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-56> Some thought > that these criticisms ignored that Biosphere 2 was an experiment where the > unexpected would occur, adding to knowledge of how complex ecologies > develop and interact, not a demonstration where everything was known in > advance.[57] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-57> H. > T. Odum <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_T._Odum> noted: "The > management process during 1992–1993 using data to develop theory, test it > with simulation, and apply corrective actions was in the best scientific > tradition. Yet some journalists crucified the management in the public > press, treating the project as if it was an Olympic contest to see how much > could be done without opening the doors".[58] > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-58>" > > > That all said, I understand the larger context in which you ask the > question and the difficulty of creating a self-sustaining ecosystem (and > social system). BTW, I think we learned as much about social systems as > ecosystems with Biosphere II to help us with Biosphere I with all the Steve > Bannon's running around :-) > > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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