SG... so succinct with sufficient but not excess tangents, I bow to you!
And then I tangent again. Your reference to Bannon's "help" with
Biosphere I (aka earth/gaia/mother-earth) reminds me to offer up:
American Dharma <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8804284/>
a documentary by Errol Flynn who is one of Bannon's heroes as a
film-maker. Bannon's adulation of Flynn gave Flynn great access to
expose Bannon for what he is in a larger but not specifically snarky way
than most Bannon hit-pieces. Bannon pretty much shows all of his own
colors in his own unprompted words in the film... Kinda like Trump at
every one of his rallys, but with (slightly) less stakes.
On 3/1/24 1:30 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:04 AM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote:
Biosphere 2 near Tuscon was a similar, even more extreme
experiment to create a self-sustaining ecosystem. The experiment
was considered a failure and the whole center belongs now to the
University of Arizona.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2
The creators of Biosphere II are from Santa Fe and still live here on
Synergia Ranch <https://synergiaranch.com/>. I am in awe of what
their "Theater of All Possibilities" pulled off in the 60s through the
90s and even today as a creative collective. I highly recommend the
documentary Spaceship Earth
(https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/spaceship-earth) to give a more
sympathetic background compared to how they were crucified by the
press and later "screwed" by Steve Bannon brought in by Ed Bass to
make it more commercial.
Note the great Howard Odum's point on the Wikipedia you linked:
" There was controversy when the public learned that the project
had allowed an injured member to leave and return, carrying new
material inside. The team claimed the only new supplies brought in
were plastic bags, but others accused them of bringing food and
other items. More criticism was raised when it was learned that,
likewise, the project injected oxygen in January 1993 to make up
for a failure in the balance of the system that resulted in the
amount of oxygen steadily declining.^[56]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-56> Some
thought that these criticisms ignored that Biosphere 2 was an
experiment where the unexpected would occur, adding to knowledge
of how complex ecologies develop and interact, not a demonstration
where everything was known in advance.^[57]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-57> H. T.
Odum <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_T._Odum> noted: "The
management process during 1992–1993 using data to develop theory,
test it with simulation, and apply corrective actions was in the
best scientific tradition. Yet some journalists crucified the
management in the public press, treating the project as if it was
an Olympic contest to see how much could be done without opening
the doors".^[58]
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-58>"
That all said, I understand the larger context in which you ask the
question and the difficulty of creating a self-sustaining ecosystem
(and social system). BTW, I think we learned as much about social
systems as ecosystems with Biosphere II to help us with Biosphere I
with all the Steve Bannon's running around :-)
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