On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello IPMC, > > The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make > a release before graduation. > > As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to > demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at the ASF. > Packaging, licensing, signing, placement into the distrubtion/mirror > system, announcements, among others[1]. We believe that the Subversion > community already has a deep understanding of the Apache release > model, based on the following qualifications of several of its > committers/mentors: > > * Greg Stein has been a committer at Apache since before the > Foundation was started. He has been involved in releases of httpd and > APR, including time as Release Manager (RM) for APR. He helped to > establish the APR TLP and the Commons TLP (prior incarnation; now > defunct). Greg wrote the versioning guidelines for APR, which are also > in use by the Subversion project. Through his 8+ years on the Board, > he has read and reviewed reports from across the ASF about release, > IP, and infrastructure issues. > > * Justin Erenkrantz has been a committer since 2001, contributing to > httpd and APR, along with mentoring the stdcxx project when it was in > the Incubator. He has been the RM for both httpd and APR. In fact, > Justin wrote the initial guidelines for the release of httpd. Justin > has been part of Infrastructure almost since its inception as a > distinct group, which includes the provision of all the facilities to > actually make and distribute ASF releases. Justin has spent many years > on the Board, providing further insight to releases across the > Foundation. > > * Sander Striker has been a committer since 2001, contributing to APR > and then httpd. Sander acted as the RM for httpd releases, and also > held a stint as the VP for httpd. Add in his time spent with > Infrastructure and the Board, and he's been observing ASF releases for > many years. > > * Garrett Rooney has been a committer since 2004, contributing and > making releases of APR, and committing to httpd. He was also the VP of > APR for several years, and has mentored two Incubating projects. > > * Daniel Rall has been a committer since 2001, contributing to many > projects: Turbine, Fulcrum, Torque, and numerous Jakarta Commons > projects. He established the community around XML-RPC, brought it > through the Incubator, and maintained it for several years within the > XML Project. He also participated in some of the bootstrapping around > the Velocity and Maven prtingojects, and participated on the Infra team. > > The Subversion community's belief is that we have ample experience to > guide us in making a release, when that time is arrives. There will > certainly be variances (e.g. mirroring) from our current established > procedures[2], but some simple fine-tuning should resolve that. The > bulk of the existing release process already meets and exceeds that a > typical Apache release. Niclas Hedman pointed out that the Subversion > community has produced 32 releases over the past four years, which > hopefully indicates a smooth, understood, and functional release > process. > > Cheers, > -g > > [1] one particular item is using a release as a gating/focal point for > legal review, but we feel that can be performed as an action > separate/distinct from performing a release > [2] http://subversion.tigris.org/release-process.html >
-0 I'm not at all familiar with how the Subversion project works so as an IPMC member I don't see how I can decide this before they've even started incubating. This is a graduation issue, why can't it just wait until then and say in the graduation proposal there's not been a release but its not necessary because of x y z. ...ant --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
