On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 22:30:17 BST james wrote:
> On 9/17/18 10:53 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > On 2018-09-14, james <gar...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> On 9/13/18 7:52 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote:
> >>> Actually, we now know what linux it runs and people are starting to
> >>> break it, at least as far as finding bugs.
> >> 
> >> Do enlighten me; what linux (embedded) does ME run? any details are
> >> of interest to me.
> > 
> > It doesn't run Linux.  According to
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine It runs Minix 3.
> 
> Minix-3. Hmmmm. I like that fact, but I just to not have any
> extra_energy for another OS/rtos. Power-arch is not an option for me.
> 
> 
> So much good information, I am going to have to ponder a few deep
> choices on controlling the bios/firmware 100%. Perhaps arm64 embedded
> boards with at least (4) gig of ddr-4. Perhaps mobos where open user
> controllable firmware is available.  AMD with PSP, looks as bad
> as Intel-ME?

Worse.  As Taiidan mentioned without a me_cleaner equivalent there is 
currently no known way of crippling AMD's PSP out of band controller.


> Perhaps old AMD systems, pre PSP, internet facing with a HPC cluster
> behind them, where resources are source via the HPC cluster, which
> actually fits in well with a HPC-Hybrid gentoo cluster approach.
> 
> 
> Since I have been work on my own HPC gentoo clusters, I'm more motivated
> to put something "I" control onto an arm64 variant, until RiscV matures
> or FPGA come way down in price. Perhaps a Front-end-core-system out of
> old discreet logic chips of yore? Or modern PLA/PLD boards, some of
> which are 3D-printable now ?
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V
> 
> prayerfully in hope of a real, verifiable solution::
> 
> James


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Regards,
Mick

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