so does the ime or the psp have access/control over anything but built in internet? If so network cards are pretty cheap for normal home and many business applications? I assume "out of band" means nonstandard protocol on the ether net or is it electrically outside the Ethernet specs? Or? p.s., I assume everyone realizes that you couldn't build a modern processor from discreet chips, it would take a lifetime, require connection to the national power grid, and would need at least most of the air conditioners in the world to cool. Not to mention the interconnecting wires would limit the clock speed drastically.
Democracynow.org 23. Sep 2018 02:40 by michaelkintz...@gmail.com <mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com>: > On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 22:30:17 BST james wrote: >> On 9/17/18 10:53 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: >> > On 2018-09-14, james <>> gar...@verizon.net <mailto:gar...@verizon.net>>> >> > > wrote: >> >> On 9/13/18 7:52 PM, >> mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com >> >> <mailto:mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com>>> wrote: >> >>> Actually, we now know what linux it runs and people are starting to >> >>> break it, at least as far as finding bugs. >> >> >> >> Do enlighten me; what linux (embedded) does ME run? any details are >> >> of interest to me. >> > >> > It doesn't run Linux. According to >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine >> > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine>>> It runs >> > >> Minix 3. >> >> Minix-3. Hmmmm. I like that fact, but I just to not have any >> extra_energy for another OS/rtos. Power-arch is not an option for me. >> >> >> So much good information, I am going to have to ponder a few deep >> choices on controlling the bios/firmware 100%. Perhaps arm64 embedded >> boards with at least (4) gig of ddr-4. Perhaps mobos where open user >> controllable firmware is available. AMD with PSP, looks as bad >> as Intel-ME? > > Worse. As Taiidan mentioned without a me_cleaner equivalent there is > currently no known way of crippling AMD's PSP out of band controller. > > >> Perhaps old AMD systems, pre PSP, internet facing with a HPC cluster >> behind them, where resources are source via the HPC cluster, which >> actually fits in well with a HPC-Hybrid gentoo cluster approach. >> >> >> Since I have been work on my own HPC gentoo clusters, I'm more motivated >> to put something "I" control onto an arm64 variant, until RiscV matures >> or FPGA come way down in price. Perhaps a Front-end-core-system out of >> old discreet logic chips of yore? Or modern PLA/PLD boards, some of >> which are 3D-printable now ? >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V> >> >> prayerfully in hope of a real, verifiable solution:: >> >> James > > > -- > Regards, > Mick
