Bravo, Klaus! I would have replied exactly the same way to "who finances it".

I would add that an anarch is aware that there is no free lunch in life. In one 
way or another, everyone pays for their choices. But he is more aware of this 
reality and therefore attempts to choose consciously what he is prepared to pay 
for. Most people get given their choices already made by society and must still 
pay for what they don't fundamentally want.

The anarch also "knows the rules" and realizes that living in society has its 
price, which he must pay if he wants to remain there and not flee to the forest.

Thomas

--- On Mon, 1/4/10, klaus gauger <klaus_gau...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: klaus gauger <klaus_gau...@yahoo.com>
Subject: AW: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger
To: juenger_org@yahoogroups.de
Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 4:32 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      Dear Joel,
 
 
it is right that Jünger always fled from society, as a 18 year old schoolboy to 
the foreign legion, and as a old man as an anarch into the forest. Who finances 
this freedom? That is a typical question of a marxist. Today we have in modern 
society millions of anarchs: Young people who don´t want to make a career and 
don´t want to participate in the "rat race" and subsist with temporary jobs, or 
doing their own business, or even with social welfare or who live from the 
money of their parents, young people who experiment with drugs, travel, read, 
write (all the things that Jünger did), sometimes temporarily, sometimes as a 
choosen lifestile. They survive in the economical and geographical niches that 
modern, rich and developed societies always offer. The question is not "who 
finances this freedom?" the question is: "Do you dare to live an 
individualistic, anti-conformistic life, even if means to
 have less money than average people, even if it means that you don´t get 
the recognition that average people get as so called hard-working citizens?". 
Besides: Also an anarch can work very hard. Jünger wrote a lot of books and 
earned some money with it.  But an Anarch will always do a work that is also 
rewarding for himself. He won´t work only for money or because he has fear to 
be evaluated as an unworthy, lazy outsider in society.
 
 
Yours,
 
Klaus
 


--- Joel Dietz <jdi...@gmail. com> schrieb am Mo, 4.1.2010:


Von: Joel Dietz <jdi...@gmail. com>
Betreff: [juenger_org] Niekisch's Critique of Juenger
An: "juenger_org" <juenger_org@ yahoogroups. de>
Datum: Montag, 4. Januar 2010, 14:26


  


Was reviewing my notes on Eliot Neaman's Dubious Past  (P. 188-189), and came 
across this:

In a two-page critique of the Waldgang, a copy of which Niekisch sent to 
Juenger, the former editor of the national Bolshevist Widerstand compared 
Juenger ot Max Stirner, whose individualism was nearly solipsistic. Acording to 
Niekisch, Juenger doesn’t realize how indebted every individual is to the 
collective: indeed, he remarks, “glorious isolation” is a version of societal 
exploitation. Niekisch wonders why the figure of the Waldgaenger has achieved 
such popularity among conservatives, positing that postwar individualism is the 
last refuge o the European intellectual, threatened by the mass culture of 
America nad the Stalinist Leviathan of Russia. 
 
Niekisch detects in all of Juenger’s poses the flight from society, ”whether in 
Africa, as a heroic soldier, a gourmet of aesthetics, as a runaway from 
Hitle’rs army in the dreamy reflection of Gardens and Streets, as a mountain 
dweller in the cosmic sphere of Heliopolis. .. . wherever one looks, one 
uncovers the figure of the fleeing nihilist.” Finally, Niekisch asks, “where is 
the forest?” He considers the trees a natural metaphor for solitude and refuge, 
comparable to Rousseau’s idea of nature. AS such the forest “is the somber 
feeling, the intuitive sense of the inner self, emancipated from the exterior 
world.” Niekisch concludes with the material question, “who finances this 
freedom”
Curious how list members would respond to Niekisch's critiques.
Best,

Joel



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