Not any more.

I use to run Oracle/VM 6 under VM/SP back in the old days.
It didn't run well, as we were limited to 16 MB real and virtual and we had
a couple VSE guests in the mix also.

But it was an upgrade from when we ran Oracle under VSE/SP.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Paul Flint <fl...@flint.com> wrote:

> Greetings Mohd (et al),
>
> I realize that this may be a genuinely stupid question, but is it possible
> to run Oracle directly under IBM zVM like you can with DB2?  I looked at
> the Oracle matrix: (http://www.oracle.com/technet
> work/database/virtualizationmatrix-172995.html), there it cites the only
> way to operate the Oracle database is under Red Hat the way you are doing
> it below.
>
> Sorry to ask such a stupid question, but with...
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Paul Flint
>
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2017, Bfishing wrote:
>
> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 07:38:04 -0500
>> From: Bfishing <bfish...@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU>
>> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: LinuxOne and Oracle License
>>
>> Hopefully you did a study to see how many Oracle DB's will run on your 5
>> IFL's.
>> - Studies can also be used to help you properly size your DR environment,
>> in addition to the effects of breaking them up into different LPAR's.  .
>>
>> Chances are (but not 100% given) that 4 LPAR's each with 5 IFL's defined
>> to
>> them with only 5 real ones available to run on maybe over committing a bit
>> to much.
>> If your sharing engines (like you most likely should) consider placing
>> dev/test into a lower weighted LPAR and break them out like this:
>> LPAR1 = 3
>> LPAR2 = 3
>>
>> That would allow you to set at least 1 Linux guest to use up to 3 CPU's
>> while helping to control your over commit.
>> Note:  You should of course really map this out with IBM or your BP to
>> review goals.
>> - Having a means to measure your system and track its behavior as you grow
>> is also important.
>> - If you have a great performance product, chances are they come with a
>> team of folks that will help you on things like this as well.
>> - And if you ask me, it's better to have them engaged early over trying to
>> scramble to get them engaged as they can really help you set realistic
>> expectations.
>>
>> BTW, here is a link for the Oracle z Systems special interest group (SIG)
>> web site.
>> http://zseriesoraclesig.org/
>>
>> Lots of great material from past sessions is available from it.
>> I did talk to some of the team working on it recently and they do plan to
>> have this years info updated soon.
>> - They did confirm DC as reported from last years event.
>>
>> Enjoy and good luck,
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 6:12 AM, Johan Schelling <
>> johan.schell...@icu-it.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I believe that’s correct.
>>> But keep in mind that also IFL’s on a DR system (active or CBU) can be
>>> seen (by Oracle) as real cores Oracle can run on.
>>> So if you have 5 active IFL’s and 5 CBU IFL’s on a DR machine this could
>>> mean that you need licenses for 10 IFL’s…..
>>> But as Kurt said, this depends entirely on the negotiations with Oracle.
>>>
>>> Johan Schelling
>>> Infrastructure Solution Architect
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Op 13 feb. 2017, om 11:34 heeft Bfishing <bfish...@gmail.com> het
>>>>
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My understanding, noting that everyone has to do there own negotiating
>>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>> Oracle, is they charge for all real cores Oracle can run on.  5 IFL'S =
>>>> 5
>>>> cores. Cores in reserve should not matter.
>>>>
>>>> How you set up your lpar's really depends on goals.
>>>>
>>>> The Oracle z Linux SIG is still being worked on for April in DC this
>>>> year
>>>> (so I heard).  That is of course a really great place to talk to Oracle
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> peers about stuff like this.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 2017 5:02 AM, "Guest, Darren" <darren.gu...@uk.experian.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding is that having 5 IFLs on each LPAR would mean you'd
>>>>>
>>>> have
>>>
>>>> to license all 10 IFLs on the box; the total of 20 logical IFLs would be
>>>>> dispatched on all 10 physical IFLs.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that if your total logical IFLs is 5 or less then you would
>>>>> be
>>>>> OK; only 5 physical IFLs worth could be running at any one time. Your
>>>>> second example should also be OK for the same reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is purely my own personal understanding and shouldn't be relied
>>>>>
>>>> upon
>>>
>>>> in any arguments with Oracle!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Darren
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
>>>>> mohd rizal
>>>>> Sent: 13 February 2017 3:22 AM
>>>>> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
>>>>> Subject: LinuxOne and Oracle License
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> We just bought LinuxOne machine purposely to run the Oracle database.
>>>>>
>>>> This
>>>
>>>> machine come with 10 IFLs. 4 LPARs will be created and z/VM ver 6.4 and
>>>>> SUSE Linux will run on top of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some issue regarding the Oracle license. Company only bought 5
>>>>> oracle license for this year and will buy the remaining 5 license next
>>>>>
>>>> year.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In the HMC, can we give 5 IFL to all LPAR:-
>>>>> LPAR1 = 5 IFL
>>>>> LPAR2 = 5 IFL
>>>>> LPAR3 = 5 IFL
>>>>> LPAR4 = 5 IFL
>>>>>
>>>>> or we should setup like this;-
>>>>> LPAR1 = 2 IFL
>>>>> LPAR2 = 1 IFL
>>>>> LPAR3 = 1 IFL
>>>>> LPAR4 = 1 IFL
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to have any issue with the auditor team later on. Please
>>>>>
>>>> give
>>>
>>>> some advice...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>> -Mohd-
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