Personally speaking, I try to stick to it as well.  I've noticed more wonky
things the more environments diverge from it.  Technically speaking, that
should not make sense - but this an unqualified opinion of mine.

--
Espi



On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com>wrote:

>  I still use it.****
>
> ** **
>
> Violate the rule at your peril. :P****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Link
> *Sent:* Friday, September 20, 2013 2:07 PM
>
> *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Semi-OT: Network problem****
>
> ** **
>
> Is this the equivalent of Vader saying "Your powers are weak, old man" to
> Obi Wan?****
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote:***
> *
>
> Sigh. Yes, but...
>
> "The 5-4-3 rule was created when 10BASE5 and 10BASE2 were the only
> types of Ethernet network available. The rule only applies to
> shared-access 10 Mbit/s Ethernet backbones. The rule does not apply to
> switched Ethernet because each port on a switch constitutes a separate
> collision domain."
>
> :)
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Michael B. Smith
> <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-4-3_rule
> >
> >****
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff****
>
> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:59 PM
> > To: NTSysADM@lists.myitforum.com
> > Subject: [NTSysADM] Semi-OT: Network problem
> >
> > All,
> >
> > In the past couple of weeks, $work has had a problem with network
> interruptions - frequent gaps in network connectivity were all contact is
> lost with servers for brief periods of time (1-2 minutes, usually).
> >
> > I could see the gaps in the graphs on my (very new and incomplete - long
> story, don't ask) cacti installation. Unfortunately, I've been unable to
> get cacti to graph CPU utilization for the switches, because they're
> Procurves, and I couldn't find a working XML file or configuration for that.
> >
> > It's always happened while I've been unavailable, until today.
> >
> > Just now, I was able to show conclusively that our core layer3 switch
> (Procurve 3400cl-48G), which was hit hardest, spikes its CPU to 99% during
> these episodes. Volume of traffic is normal - ho huge spikes in that, just
> normal variation, AFAICT, from the cacti graphs. I haven't had time to see
> if other switches also spike their CPU, but given the gaps in the graphs, I
> suspect that's the case.
> >
> > I suspect someone is doing something stupid to create layer2 loop, as we
> have lots of little 5 and 8 port switches on desktops and in our
> engineering lab - and in spite of the fact that I've set our core switch as
> the root of the spanning tree.
> >
> > I'm setting up a box to do a tcpdump in a ring buffer with smallish
> files so that I can do analysis on them more easily.
> >
> > I'm not a packet analysis guy, though I've done some looking on occasion.
> >
> > Anyone have thoughts on what to look for when I start my analysis?
> >
> > Kurt
> >
> >
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>

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