On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Tobias Oetiker <t...@oetiker.ch> wrote:
> Hi Aurélien > > the motivation behind OmniOSce is that we have come to love the the > stability and > tight focus of OmniOS. Many of us are running large servers that form > critical pieces of our infrastructure. Loosing OmniOS was simply not an > option for us. Since OmniTI gave up on this we were forced start doing the > work on our own. > Your answer makes me think I was not clear enough or that we are discussing two different things ... My point was about collaboration not about losing what you like. > > for now our focus is in building on Dan's excellent work, both in updating > r022 as well as pulling in new stuff from both upstream illumos and joyents > lx work. > Which is understandable ;) On the other hand I raised a few questions about collaboration and perspectives which I thought could be worth discussing beyond the current state of affairs. > we are happy for anyone to join us in our effort, for example also in > providing a more end user focussed repo that goes along with omnios, > providing a desktop environment for those who want to use the os in that > capacity. > If we want another general-purpose distro with 2 maintainers and 10 users that's certainly the way to go ;) > > www.omniosce.org > gitter.im/omniosorg/Lobby > > Tobias Oetiker > > On 7 Jul 2017, at 01:47, Aurélien Larcher <aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Gea, >> >> the king is dead, long live the king >> >> https://gitter.im/omniosorg/Lobby >> >> www.omniosce.org >> >> the story continues ... >> > > It is good news, but I would engage you to discuss about reducing the > fragmentation in the illumos community. > We have a few distros maintained by 1-3 guys without any or much momentum > and much duplication of efforts (Debian has 1000+ devs working together and > we are barely able to have more than 10). > > We should join our efforts like, as I suggested, basing on common tools > and userland. > I do not see how wasting energy in duplicate efforts will help us > keep/gain momentum. > I mentioned earlier the possibility of a virtuous circle with OI as the > rolling testing and OmniOS the stable: to be honest I see very little sense > in maintaining two "testing" with such a small manpower. In the long term > this does not seem sustainable. > > At least some degree of collaboration should be maintained on > documentation, pkg(5) and updates of Python/Perl/GCC with the same source > repository. > > Of course this is not "right now", as you need to maintain continuity, but > we should plan the next 6 month cycle to decide on common requirements and > make it happen. > I saw Peter has built illumos-omnios on Tribblix, I think we should do the > same on OpenIndiana: the issue is not about doing it once (I did it last > year) but having a person commited to maintain it. > > Convergence is necessary, at least to some extent, discussion is open. :) > > Kind regards > > Aurélien > > >> >> cheers >> tobi >> >> ----- On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Guenther Alka <a...@hfg-gmuend.de> >> wrote: >> >> *about OmniOS** and the silence for weeks* >> >> For my own future, I have already decided to switch back to OpenIndiana, >> the community based sister project of OmniOS. But like many users, I have >> yet OmniOS installations running perfectly. For them, it is essential to >> ask about the future for the next months or year and needed next steps (can >> wait some time or switch as soon as possible). >> >> >> *@**OmniTi* >> The end of OmniOS@OmniTi seems final. >> >> - How long will the website and the repo remain online? >> >> - Is there an option to fix serious bugs or problems in OmniOS @OmniTi >> for >> a limited time like 1 year or at least end of the year? >> >> - Are you willing to transfer the website/name either to a new OmniOS >> community project (I cannot see this as an option regarding the silence >> about) or to the OpenIndiana community to use it as a name for a possible >> stable like OpenIndiana Hipster=dev and OpenIndiana OmniOS as a stable >> subset? (if OI is willing to go that route but the request or offer must >> come from OmniTi or OmniOS people). >> >> OmniOS has a very strong reputation regarding production quality and >> stability, so such a step would help both if OpenIndiana and OmniOS would >> cooperate in a common project. Seems a pity if the name would die or >> remain as a name for a failed project. >> >> >> *@OmniOS developers* (current or former - you have done a very good job!) >> >> - Is there an option to fix serious bugs or problems in OmniOS for a >> limited time like 1 year or at least end of the year? This would help until >> a sucessor (less likely OmniOS 151024, maybe next OpenIndiana snap with >> a stable subset) is available. LX would then remain an OmniOS option in >> the meantime (I would not dare to ask about an upstream). >> >> >> >> *@all* >> comments? >> >> >> >> Gea >> @napp-it.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss >> >> >> -- >> Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland >> www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch +41 62 775 9902 <+41%2062%20775%2099%2002> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OmniOS-discuss mailing list >> OmniOS-discuss@lists.omniti.com >> http://lists.omniti.com/mailman/listinfo/omnios-discuss >> >> > > > -- > --- > Praise the Caffeine embeddings > > -- --- Praise the Caffeine embeddings
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