I'm a vegan. I just choose to run my vegetables through a cow first. On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 10:53 Bec C <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You can be an idiot on any diet. I wouldn't believe everything you read > either. I've seen studies that totally contradict each other. > > Just for the record I'm not actually vegan. I tried it a few years ago. > > As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories. Being healthy is a > whole different thing. > > Anyway too off topic now > > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> OOTT: At the risk of starting a flame war, I'm going to call shenanigans >> on this one (sorry Bec). Whilst most vegans probably have very healthy >> diets (due to increased awareness of what they eat) there's nothing >> inherent in veganism that actually ensures this, as a quick scan down the >> vegan society pages confirms: >> https://www.vegansociety.com/resources/lifestyle/food-and-drink. Plenty >> of sugary treats in that list described as vegan, even beans on toast is >> packed with the stuff. >> >> It's *not* about the calories. >> https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin >> >> OOTT= off off-topic topic >> >> On 20 Jun. 2017 06:29, "Bec C" <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, >>> very hard to eat excess calories on a vegan diet. >>> >>> On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price <step...@lythixdesigns.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Totally agree on this point. I've been ketogenic for six months now >>>> (lost 6kg in the first month, have plateaued now but feel great). Some .net >>>> people may know Carl Franklin's been podcasting at 2ketodudes.com, and >>>> he's done an awesome job recording his progress. 6 months and he lost 80lb >>>> and is no longer type 2 diabetic. >>>> Got so much out of it, I backed his kickstarter project to turn his >>>> town keto for a weekend. Flying out with my wife in a couple of weeks. Will >>>> be seeing the sights in New York, then up to New London for ketofest. >>>> Btw, you don't have to be over weight to suffer the damaging effects of >>>> too much carbs/sugar. The inflammatory damage in your veins can't be seen >>>> from the outside. >>>> >>>> One of the strange side effects I have noticed is that some days I >>>> forget to eat. Today, I had accidentally turned off my alarm so was running >>>> a bit late. Went to work with no breakfast, had one coffee at work, and >>>> worked right through lunch as I hadn't taken anything and office is a bit >>>> of a drive from places to eat. Barely noticed. >>>> Don't miss sugar. Finding some awesome recipes along the way. Recently >>>> made deep fried chicken crumbed in pork rinds combined with Parmesan >>>> cheese. >>>> So good. Hmm... this might possibly be the first recipe shared on this >>>> elist. :) >>>> >>>> Anyway to keep on topic, had a standup desk and my last project, one of >>>> those motorised ones. Great for exercise and strengthening but not losing >>>> weight. What you put in your body has way more effect in that regard. You >>>> can lose weight with zero exercise, but exercise is important for other >>>> reasons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you >>>> lose it. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Stephen >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> >>>> on behalf of Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 8:46:35 PM >>>> *To:* ozDotNet >>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results >>>> >>>> There are quite a few people in my office now using sit-to-stand desks. >>>> I sent a scary article around about a year or so ago about the health >>>> issues, but I think it's mostly the availability of reasonable quality >>>> converters (Varidesk etc) that's really changed things. >>>> >>>> I'm between offices too much to have one myself (I'd need 3), so I just >>>> concentrate on having a regular walk around the office instead, and having >>>> all meetings as stand ups. And - on the insulin front - be sure to read up >>>> on (and cut down on) the sugar that's crammed into everything these days. >>>> >>>> On 19 Jun. 2017 14:33, "Tony Wright" <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>> >>>>> No, not the back for me. They say that your body stops regulating >>>>> insulin properly after 4 hours of sitting, and that's about when I was >>>>> feeling unwell/lethargic from sitting. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Tony >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Did you switch to this for a specific reason (lower back problem for >>>>>> example)? If so did this help at all in a noticeable way? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, 19 June 2017, Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It changes for me. Sometimes I stand, sometimes I sit. If I feel >>>>>>> that I've been sitting for too long, I hit the buttons and stand for a >>>>>>> while. I'm not regretful for one second that I have the option. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Tony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Tom Rutter <therut...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey folks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I recall a while ago discussion into sit/stand desks and was >>>>>>>> interested in how people went with this setup. Did those that tried >>>>>>>> standing get any good (or bad) results? Are they still doing it or went >>>>>>>> back to only sitting? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
