First, everyone should also read Mike Taulty’s post:
http://mtaulty.com/CommunityServer/blogs/mike_taultys_blog/archive/2010/09/10/iphone-4-is-dead.aspx
 

Another thing that I didn’t see too much in all this hoopla is talking about 
the obvious that Silverlight is reaching maturity (not end of life, but normal 
development cycles vs. double time). MS arrived late to the party in online 
video streaming. IE is nothing but a punching bag online, so they need to step 
it up if they want to be taken seriously as an online leader. They surely don’t 
want to be late again with HTML5. Yes it makes sense to invest heavily early in 
this new shiny object, lest they arrive late again.


From: Jordan Knight 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:17 PM
To: ozSilverlight 
Subject: Re: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic

I'd also like to raise some points RE HTML5 and WPF/SL etc.  

Back in the 1890's the head of the US patent office declared he was going to 
close the office because he thought that there was nothing left to invent... 
rather short sighted given hindsight...

My point is that HTML5 will bring to the masses through standardisation the 
features that consumers have come to demand thanks to agile plugins like SL and 
Flash. To quote the SL team blog post that flamed the debate - SL/Flash 
trailblaze and HTML5 will then pave the road. These features are already out 
there and pervasive (demanded) - so why not standardise and give them the 
ultimate reach they deserve! Bravo - it's a really good idea, and consumers 
win. The stuff that was around years ago will now be available through 
standards. 

But there is new stuff now... that stuff has been done - tech moves on.

Where consumers *also* win is that SL and Flash are all about ideas and tech 
that doesn't/didn't exist yet + getting it to market fast. It's a playground 
for great ideas. 3D video. Surround sound, adaptive smooth streaming (for the 
SL = video zealots). Multitouch, multi screen, multi bloody everything. Rapid 
development (through Des/Dev workflows) + awesome tooling. 

Consumers like apps too remember. They would much rather read their EPG in an 
app than have a link to a web page on their desktop. 

And what about other ideas that don't really exist yet. To say that WPF is dead 
and/or dying - well I say to you - there is more to the world of UX and 
consumerism than just the browser/current thinking. I think that WPF is _still_ 
ahead of its time. Tech/devices are moving wayyyyy too fast for HTML5 spec to 
keep up with (what about this cheap new device? 
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/microsoft-principal-researcher-bill-buxton-surface-will-be-in-h/)...

I think the HTML5 vs the world debate is forgetting about the consumer 
app/hi-tech/new shiny device market - it will/(*is*) be hooooooge! And we need 
to keep the consumers happy (which means being nimble!).

HTML5 is great, bringing what we demand to spec. Yaay for Vimeo working on my 
iPhone! Plugins are great bringing us the latest tech quickly. And... as new 
screens are added (Surface, phones etc)... then you can be sure i'll be betting 
the farm on ripping out apps quickly on tech like WPF... 

Cheap Surfaces, every shop... WPF = killer.

My 2 cents :)


On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tatham Oddie <tat...@oddie.com.au> wrote:

  Even as the web standards zealot in the corner, I wouldn’t agree with many of 
Scott’s points.



  Jordan Knight and I just discussed the relationship between HTML5 and 
Silverlight across two episodes of Frankly Speaking:



  http://www.noisetosignal.com.au/franklyspeaking/?p=256

  http://www.noisetosignal.com.au/franklyspeaking/?p=260



  --

  Tatham Oddie

  au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 280 9140, skype: tathamoddie

  If you’re printing this email, you’re doing it wrong. This is a computer, not 
a typewriter.



  From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of 
danlaz...@arcamis.com
  Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 6:33 PM
  To: ozSilverlight
  Subject: Interesting article re: WPF/Silverlight/HTML5 on riagenic



  Via CodeProject 'Daily News' (14/09/2010) -  
http://www.riagenic.com/archives/363



  Dr. Dan Lazner, PhD | Software Architect/Engineer/Developer




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