I agree with Gary. As a blind person, I see no reason to pay more. If you have 
sighted people in your house of course, there are advantages as he pointed out. 
Amazon prime day is coming up. I don't know what country you are in. But if you 
are one that gets that primed day thing, you might wait and see what specials 
they will be having, especially if you're interested in the Fire TV. They 
always seem to discount their own products fairly heavily.
Mary


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> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:15 AM, Gary Schindler <garys5...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> The only advantage with the fire tv box is that it has a faster processor and 
> you can expand the memory with a micro SD card. No extras for blind people!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Angel
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> Hi again Mary,
> 
> Do you know anything about the Amazon fire tv box that sells for like $90?
> I'm going to do some more research on the box, It offers more than the fire
> stick like being able to expand the memory to I think 128 gb. I think it is
> also 4K ready, whereas the fire stick is limited to 1 gb of memory and is
> only capable of 1K programming. But it is like $50 more than the stick, and
> I don't know if it yields the same joy as the stick does for a blind user.
> 
> Anyway, if anyone on the list has an Amazon fire tv box, please chime in
> here to let me and others know if getting the fire box instead of the fire
> stick offers advantages useful for a blind individual.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:55 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
> 
> The screen reader comes on the fire. When you first get it, it will download
> a better voice than the one that originally starts up. There are
> instructions how to get it going from the get go on Amazon. I don't have the
> link right here, but if somebody doesn't come up with it, I will see if I
> can find it. Also, make sure that once you get your fire up and running,
> that you make sure the software is up-to-date. So you want to check for
> updates of course. You don't really need the iPad mini for this. You just
> need to have a place to plug the Kindle fire stick directly into the TV.
> That would be an HDMI port available. And of course you have to be able to
> switch to that HDMI port so you can see the screen and hear what's going on,
> including the screenreaer. So really, the iPad mini has no role to play
> here.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Johnny Angel <j...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Mary,
>> 
>> Yah I just want to be able to access menus and movie category and
>> individual movies. So, in addition to my I-pad mini and HTMI cable to
>> connect to my dumb TV, I need two other items to get, right? The TV
>> fire stick and the Voice View screen reader. And I take it that Amazon
> sells everything I need?
>> 
>> I'll check it all out and let you know how things are going.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:09 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: RE: Fire TV Stick with Voice Remote
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> Yes, with the fire tv stick, you can access netflix and see categories
>> of movies, go through lists etc. When I first got the tv stick, sign
>> in was not accessible. Now it is, according to other blind people;
>> since I got sighted help for my initial sign in, I haven't had to do
>> that again, so I can personally verify it. My set up is wifi. I
>> honestly don't remember how difficult it was to do that sign in,
>> because it was several months ago, and I've gone through a lot of
>> stuff in my personal life since then. Now the fire stick has alexa as
>> well as the voiceview screen reader. I don't use the alexa much, but
>> it is there. I also can't speak to Pandora accessibility, since I don't
> use that service.
>> But netflix is good, better than on the apple tv, because it is better
>> at announcing the category or row of movie listings you are in.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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