No Dave, his previous ads did not mention anything about paper stickers, which
is why PayPal refunded my money. He actually ran several auctions previous to
the one that I bid on, with authentic rare tins, but they were always won by
his friend... It was classic bait and switch. My point was, now he's being
honest, after a few other problems with different buyers. He totally lost his
eBay account because of fraud and now he is back, with a new name. Same stuff,
but at least he's describing it honestly. I have bought a number of things from
Germany and generally understand the German listings - if not, I always run
them through Google translator.
> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 02:54:58 -0800
> From: dda...@sbcglobal.net
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Needle Tin Collectors - Watch Out For This Seller
>
> Well, he's is quite clear about it this time. The ad in German explains how
> the tins are partially filled and covered with paper stickers. Perhaps his
> other ad was clear in German and you did not understand?
> Dave
>
> --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> wrote:
>
> From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com>
> Subject: [Phono-L] Needle Tin Collectors - Watch Out For This Seller
> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
> Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 7:43 PM
>
>
> Last year I bought what was represented to be a collection of high end needle
> tins from a guy in Germany. He had run several previous auctions with some
> pretty rare tins, so when I saw a new listing for a collection, I bid 200
> euros on it as a proxy bid. Someone kept bumping it up until it reached my
> maximum bid, but I won the auction. When I received the tins, I found that
> they were mostly fakes - other tins with decals or stickers applied to them.
> Also, he just dumped them all in an envelope and mailed them without any real
> care. I wrote him about the fakes and he said that if I read his long
> description, I would see that he said "keine originale" somewhere in the
> ramblings. Keine in German means "not", which I learned. I looked up his
> previous listings and read the descriptions and nowhere did I see "keine" and
> coincidentally these auctions were all won by the same guy who bumped up my
> bid on the fakes. I wrote eBay about it and expected nothing.
> Since I used PayPal, howev
> er, eBay ruled in my favor and refunded my money. Now he's back with a new
> listing, but apparently the refund and eBay's decision has made him somewhat
> more honest. Now he's selling fake tins in an original box, but the
> description says "not original" in several languages and in large print in
> the title, so maybe it worked on him...
> New listing:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150532842241&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
>
>
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