I am sorry that you had a bad experience. Google or any other on line translator is better than nothing, but the translations are sometimes pretty odd themselves. Dave
--- On Sun, 12/12/10, Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> wrote: From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Needle Tin Collectors - Watch Out For This Seller To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 9:10 PM No Dave, his previous ads did not mention anything about paper stickers, which is why PayPal refunded my money. He actually ran several auctions previous to the one that I bid on, with authentic rare tins, but they were always won by his friend... It was classic bait and switch. My point was, now he's being honest, after a few other problems with different buyers. He totally lost his eBay account because of fraud and now he is back, with a new name. Same stuff, but at least he's describing it honestly. I have bought a number of things from Germany and generally understand the German listings - if not, I always run them through Google translator. > Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 02:54:58 -0800 > From: dda...@sbcglobal.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Needle Tin Collectors - Watch Out For This Seller > > Well, he's is quite clear about it this time. The ad in German explains how > the tins are partially filled and covered with paper stickers. Perhaps his > other ad was clear in German and you did not understand? > Dave > > --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> wrote: > > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> > Subject: [Phono-L] Needle Tin Collectors - Watch Out For This Seller > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 7:43 PM > > > Last year I bought what was represented to be a collection of high end needle > tins from a guy in Germany. He had run several previous auctions with some > pretty rare tins, so when I saw a new listing for a collection, I bid 200 > euros on it as a proxy bid. Someone kept bumping it up until it reached my > maximum bid, but I won the auction. When I received the tins, I found that > they were mostly fakes - other tins with decals or stickers applied to them. > Also, he just dumped them all in an envelope and mailed them without any real > care. I wrote him about the fakes and he said that if I read his long > description, I would see that he said "keine originale" somewhere in the > ramblings. Keine in German means "not", which I learned. I looked up his > previous listings and read the descriptions and nowhere did I see "keine" and > coincidentally these auctions were all won by the same guy who bumped up my > bid on the fakes. I wrote eBay about it and expected nothing. > Since I used PayPal, howev > er, eBay ruled in my favor and refunded my money. Now he's back with a new > listing, but apparently the refund and eBay's decision has made him somewhat > more honest. Now he's selling fake tins in an original box, but the > description says "not original" in several languages and in large print in > the title, so maybe it worked on him... > New listing: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150532842241&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
