2010/9/10 Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog <[email protected]>:
> Hi Leandro,
>
> On 10 sept. 2010, at 04:55, Leandro Santiago wrote:
>
>> Hello to all. (Sorry for my bad English, I'm Brazilian, I hope you
>> understand me, and yes, it's a long text :-))
>>
>> I'm a qooxdoo fan's, even I being a newbie :-)
>>
>
> Welcome !
>
>> I'm thinking in how qooxdoo is a great framework, but it isn't very
>> know. Many people use other frameworks for RIA,  like Flex (here in
>> Brazil it's very famous) or Silverlight and they usually spend a lot
>> of money with these tools and other things.
>>
>
> I agree.
>
>> Flex is know for the MXML dialect. Qooxdoo is incredible and there is
>> QxTransformer, which as easy as MXML, but it's less know and less
>> documented (OMG, I needed to look into qxtransform source code to
>> learn about QXML! :-) ). But it's a wonderful product.
>>
>> Flex and ActionScript have integration with many IDEs, but so far I
>> didn't see any IDE with qooxdoo support or even QxTransform support.
>
> That's true, for the javascript part (I personally hate to use XML as a 
> programing language).
I think descritive languages are good to design interfaces, mainly to
create via software. And I see the people like writing interfaces in
XML (XUL, MXML, XAML, HTML). But I know it's not the focus of qooxdoo.
 But it's a nice feature.

> It is due to some very positive part of qooxdoo : it is not only a js, but an 
> OO js.
> This is why I like qooxdoo but the consequence is that OO layer is not well 
> taken into account by IDE, even javascript IDE.
> Also, the Python build toolchain as to be integrated in the IDE.
> We did that using Ant script and it works for IntelliJ, Eclipse and NetBeans.
> If interested I can post the script that are really small and simple.
>
>> [CUT]
>
>
>>
>> The next gen web browser are going to use hardware acceleration to
>> "boost" web pages and web apps. Flash (used by Flex) already uses
>> hardware acceleration, so it's very fast and has cool animations on
>> it's interface.  I think qooxdoo could take advantages of threse new
>> browsers' tecnologies to improve it's performance. Are there any
>> iniciative in this way?
>
> Good question. I'm interested ...
>
>> There are also other interesting tecnologies
>> link video and audio (html5 tag) and even the canvas and svg element
>> which could be used to enrich the qooxdoo framework.
>>
>
> Yes and don't forget to mention offline use and local persistence with web 
> database.
> http://ajaxian.com/archives/offline-what-does-it-mean-and-why-should-i-care
>
>> [CUT]
>
>>
>> (IMHO) In this case, is essential to create an ecossystem around qooxdoo
>
> Yes, fully agree. In France, qooxdoo is mainly unknown.
> I was not able to get paid consultancy !
> There is an incredible situation for Qooxdoo : so good ant still unknown ... 
> (at least in France, not sure elsewhere)
> That's a real problem but strangely very few qooxdoo users appears aware of 
> that as a problem.
> I'd be happy to understand why but this would surely become a hot flaming 
> discussion, caution :-)
>
>
>> Composed by IDEs, documentation, forums, IRC channels (yes, I
>> miss a IRC channel :-( ), translation teams, etc.
>>
>
> qooxdoo IRC channel : #qooxdoo on irc.freenode.net
But this channel is always quite empty. Right now there are only 7
people there :-(
>
>> Thanks you qooxdoo developers.
>>
>> Best regards.
>
>
>
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