Hello, just want to chime in.

I disagre with Jean-Baptiste about what needs to be done to trigger
greater adoption. Personally I think Python is a great choice for a
build system and I had no problems at all with this as a newcomer to
Qx. There are btw probably more companies in France using Qx that what
you may think (we are one of such companies), for a simple reason that
was already outlined: from a technical perspective, Qx rocks.

I think that's actually one of the reason that it's hard to find paid
consultancy on Qx: the framework is so good, and the support on the ML
is so good, who needs to pay a consultant ? ;)

Greater adoption will be achieved only through time, IMHO; jQuery has
better adoption just because it's not used for the same things, and a
lot more people need some extra JS on a mostly server based web system
than a full blown OO JS library for a RIA. Qx is better compared to
GWT (also a great library, btw) and GWT is more known because Google
has probably 1000 times the marketing power 1&1 has on the development
community (since Google produces an incredible amount of good stuff
for developers).
But if you compare for example Qx to Zapatec (also a JS RIA commercial
library - I used it in my previous company, it's expensive and a total
piece of crap), I am not sure Zapatec is more known than Qx.

The only thing I wish for Qx is faster development, faster bugfixing.
Especially with bugs that have patches. There is one bug on the
bugzilla that has a patch and is absolutely essential for us, but it
is still not applied upstream. But hey, man power is limited. The
build system is also a bit weird at times but for a newcomer,
everything works out of the box, so I dont really think there needs
some improvement there.

Cheers

Jean-Noel

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:31 PM, thron7 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>> I think projects also can grow too fast (meaning not as
>>> carefully designed/tested/etc).
>>
>> Growing too fast ? Are you serious ? That's not current qooxdoo problem !
>> You may have information I don't have, but according to me, qooxdoo is not 
>> growing fast enough.
>
> I think there are different issues:
>
> (a) A greater market recognition of qooxdoo, e.g. in the French market,
> so that you find it easier to get acceptance to chose qooxdoo for a
> customer project.
> (b) A greater qooxdoo user community.
>
> (b) might derive from (a), but they are still two separate issues.
>
> In case of (b), I'm re-stating what I have said before, and what is in
> line with Fritz' remark: We're on the brink of what we can handle
> manpower-wise. If e.g. the mailing list traffic would grow by, say, 30%
> and we would still try to provide the same level of support there, that
> might mean we had to entirely stop implementing new features in qooxdoo!
> Or cut down on testing. Or cut down dramatically on documentation. Or
> cut down on support otherwise. Just consider that.
>
> T.
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