I second Petrs proposition to move at least the Library component in Core. That really adds value for the (commercial) rebolopers.
--Maarten > Carl Sassenrath wrote: > >Dear REBOL List: > > > >I just wanted to drop by the list and say hi. I wish I had > >more time to participate in the discussions here. So many > >good ideas and questions! I would like to comment on every > >message... > > That's great :-) > > >===Webby > > > >As you know, REBOL was recently nominated for a Webby. > >This is a huge honor for us, being picked as one of the top > >five technical achievements along with Google, Sony, and two > >others. > > > >Although the Webby itself is decided by a closed group of > >people, the People's Voice award is picked by the public. > >This is our opportunity to make REBOL stand out. I realize > >that it's not that easy to vote, but please do! Google now > >has the lead, but REBOL is second. Let's make REBOL first. > > > >http://www.webbyawards.com/peoplesvoice/index.html > > > >Be sure to tell your friends and coworkers to vote too. > >Also, send the REBOL Webby press release to your local > >newspapers. Now that is REBOL networking. > > already voted and also pushed my brain to come up with some comments, > after your marketing guru Scot talked me to write something :-) > > >===Bio Update > > > >For those of you in the CZ Republic, I've added a more > >detailed history/bio on myself and put a few photos along > >with it (including nice Amiga team photo). You can find > >it at: > > > >http://www.rebol.com/bio-carl.html > > Ah, that is simply cool. Why Czech Republic specific? :-) I hope others > can read it too, as the page is simply cool and reminds me there is not > only product, but also some community around it. What about Guru > meditation executive update on the website? :-) Maybe it could be called > GurMan - what do we cook today? :-) > > I also saw your employment oportunities? What about programmers > employment oportunities? You will need more programmers to get all that > nice enhancement requests to 3.0, don't you think? :-) > > >===New REBOL Licensing > > > >I think it's time to change the licensing for REBOL/Core > >and REBOL/View. What do you think? Here's what I'm thinking: > > > >Core and View would be free for use and redistribution for > >commercial and noncommercial use; however, if more than five > >copies are in use at a single company, then purchasing would > >be required. Exception would be the use of REBOL for any > >educational purposes. > > > >This mean you can use REBOL for creating and selling your > >programs, for in-house servers, for small company clients, > >and for use in consulting solutions. > > > >What we're really trying to do is avoid XYZ Company using it > >for free with their 100,000 employees. They can afford to pay > >for it, and we need them to do so. (Unlike Linus, etc., we don't > >have any other jobs but REBOL!) > > Ah, sounds too good to be true! I have few other questions/suggestions > here: > > - is it possible to let computer magazine publish Rebol/View on their CD > for ppl to try? Do they need any kind of special licence/agreement or > are they free to do so? > > - what kind of Desktop will next View feature? IIRC it was said Link & > View are bocoming one - but Link uses synchronisation to IOS server > along with IOS Desktop. What will View users use? Current View desktop, > so there will be two desktops? Or? > > - if this is the right time for Rebol to take off, I would go even > further - put library and shell components into Core! Let them fly! > Security, databases, etc. are still good for /Command. Simplify your > product line - discard /Pro, so there would be only Core with library > and shell and /Command profi line. Look - I think that equation is not > only: > > X pieces of Rebol sold * Y money it costs = how to measure success ... > > I am not sure you take in mind also psychologic factors. E.g. once you > establish Rebol in some community, such community will become dependant > upon it, will start to use it, suggest it to others, promote it - it is > spiral effect, it starts slowly, maybe does not bring some direct sales > intitially, but I think if done well, it can turn into advantage ... :-) > > And you can bet Carl, that if some kind of voting would be here, it > would end-up in some 10:0 pekr vs RT :-) Am I right folks? (don't dare > to tell anything against my opinion here, or I will shoot you! - Cyphre, > what about some shoot'em up game? :-) > > Note: library and shell could be secured the same way, as you do when > you touch outside of default sand-box - dialog box asking for permission > (Rebol's native 'delete command can cause enough damage, maybe even > more, than most of library functions :-).... > > >===Just Remember on IOS... > > > >I just wanted to point out that, just as VID is just a subsystem > >running on View (and you can write your own VID or similar GUI > >system), the IOS Desktop is just an application that runs on IOS. > >IOS is capable of a lot more than just that provided by the Desktop. > >In fact it is possible to create custom desktop apps that change > >it completely. The desktop is written 100% in REBOL and is about > >40K of code. > > > >We've been thinking of alternate types of desktops that are more > >organizational workflow specific. We've got some killer-app ideas > >too! > > > >That's it for now! Got to run. Remember to Vote for REBOL! > > Well, I really enjoyed your email - made my day, that's for sure! > > -pekr- > > >-Carl > > > >Carl Sassenrath > >REBOL Founder -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.
