On Fri, 17 May 2002, Mike Burger wrote:

> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Mike Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: RE DSL IP ROBBERY
>
> No, they don't have to allocate teh disk space...but you're not saving
> them money...you're in effect costing them more, by having to route the
> extra traffic to you.
>
> What do your terms of service say on the matter?
>
> I'm assuming that the TOS assumes you're a home user, not a business user.
> By and large, home users do not need the ability to run incoming server
> type services.
>
> If your TOS does not include a clause that says you A) get a static IP or
> B) that you can run server type services, then assuming that you are
> have those prerogatives might be ill advised.
>
> On Fri, 17 May 2002, Mark Neidorff wrote:
>
> > I disagree.  I signed up for a connection to the Internet and
> > bandwidth--period--when I contracted with my isp. This recent nonsense of
> > blocking ports is just plain insulting.
> >
> > Assuming that I am a responsible citizen (which any administrator needs to
> > be on ANY network) on the Internet, what I do with my bandwidth is my
> > business.
> >
> > I did NOT sign up for X hours or for Y Gb of traffic. If I choose to run a
> > server at my site, I'm ***saving my isp money*** and resources since they
> > do not have to run that service for me or allocate the disk space to me.
> >
> > Mark
> > >
> > >   Price =~ speed * reliability * features.
> > >
> > >   Features include things like static IP addresses, peering, hosting,
> > > etc, etc, etc...  A dude with static IP address SHOULD pay more than one
> > > who is making occasional use of an IP pool or one who is not running
> > > static services.  Turn it around...  Against the higher price, those who
> > > can accept cheaper services get a discount.  You want the high priced
> > > spred but you want the discount too.
> > >
> > >   Turn it around.  All these mergers are a result of rats like you
> > > who don't want to pay for services they demand so the ISPs can't pay their
> > > bills and go bankrupt and get bought out.  You made your own bed.
> > >
> > >   You might have it "fast", "featureful" (static, stable, whatever),
> > > and "cheap".  PICK TWO!  YOU DON'T GET THREE!
> > >
> > >   Mike
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Mike, right on the money, as always :)
-- Jonathan

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