On Fri, 17 May 2002, Mike Burger wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mike Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE DSL IP ROBBERY > > No, they don't have to allocate teh disk space...but you're not saving > them money...you're in effect costing them more, by having to route the > extra traffic to you. > > What do your terms of service say on the matter? > > I'm assuming that the TOS assumes you're a home user, not a business user. > By and large, home users do not need the ability to run incoming server > type services. > > If your TOS does not include a clause that says you A) get a static IP or > B) that you can run server type services, then assuming that you are > have those prerogatives might be ill advised. > > On Fri, 17 May 2002, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > I disagree. I signed up for a connection to the Internet and > > bandwidth--period--when I contracted with my isp. This recent nonsense of > > blocking ports is just plain insulting. > > > > Assuming that I am a responsible citizen (which any administrator needs to > > be on ANY network) on the Internet, what I do with my bandwidth is my > > business. > > > > I did NOT sign up for X hours or for Y Gb of traffic. If I choose to run a > > server at my site, I'm ***saving my isp money*** and resources since they > > do not have to run that service for me or allocate the disk space to me. > > > > Mark > > > > > > Price =~ speed * reliability * features. > > > > > > Features include things like static IP addresses, peering, hosting, > > > etc, etc, etc... A dude with static IP address SHOULD pay more than one > > > who is making occasional use of an IP pool or one who is not running > > > static services. Turn it around... Against the higher price, those who > > > can accept cheaper services get a discount. You want the high priced > > > spred but you want the discount too. > > > > > > Turn it around. All these mergers are a result of rats like you > > > who don't want to pay for services they demand so the ISPs can't pay their > > > bills and go bankrupt and get bought out. You made your own bed. > > > > > > You might have it "fast", "featureful" (static, stable, whatever), > > > and "cheap". PICK TWO! YOU DON'T GET THREE! > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list >
Mike, right on the money, as always :) -- Jonathan [----------------------------------------------------] [ Jonathan M. Slivko | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ web: http://jslivko.freeshell.org -- primary ] [ web: http://my.core.com/~jonathan.slivko/ ] [ GPG Key @ http://jslivko.freeshell.org/jslivko.gpg ] [----------------------------------------------------] _______________________________________________ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list