[Fink-beginners] failure to selfupdate

2015-10-06 Thread Schneider
I'm on Mac OS X 10.10.5.  I installed fink a few days ago
and wanted to do a new installation.  I was told to selfupdate.

Repeated updateds give:


% fink selfupdate
/usr/bin/rsync -az -q  
rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo//TIMESTAMP 
/sw/fink/TIMESTAMP.tmp
I will now run the rsync command to retrieve the latest package descriptions. 
/usr/bin/rsync -rtz --delete-after --delete -q   --include='10.9-libcxx/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/' --include='10.9-libcxx/stable/main/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/main/finkinfo/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/main/finkinfo/*/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/main/finkinfo/*' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/main/finkinfo/**/*' --include='10.9-libcxx/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/' --include='10.9-libcxx/stable/crypto/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/crypto/finkinfo/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/crypto/finkinfo/*/' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/crypto/finkinfo/*' 
--include='10.9-libcxx/stable/crypto/finkinfo/**/*' --include='VERSION' 
--include='DISTRIBUTION' --include='README' --exclude='**' 
'rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo' '/sw/fink/'
Downloading the indexes of available packages in the binary distribution.
/sw/bin/apt-get-lockwait -q update
Err file: local/main Packages
  File not found
Ign file: local/main Release
Err file: stable/crypto Packages
  File not found
Ign file: stable/crypto Release
Hit http://bindist.finkproject.org stable/main Packages
Hit http://bindist.finkproject.org stable/main Release
Hit http://bindist.finkmirrors.net stable/main Packages
Hit http://bindist.finkmirrors.net stable/main Release
Failed to fetch file:/sw/fink/dists/local/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/Packages  
File not found
Failed to fetch file:/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-x86_64/Packages 
 File not found
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.
### execution of /sw/bin/apt-get-lockwait failed, exit code 100
WARNING: Failure while updating indexes.
Running 'fink scanpackages' may fix indexing problems.
Scanning package description files..
Information about 9174 packages read in 0 seconds.
No packages to install.

The core packages have been updated. You should now update the other packages
using commands like 'fink update-all'.


Should I care about the missing packages and warnings?

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] failure to selfupdate

2015-10-06 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

Thanks for the quick response!

> You didn't actually fail to selfupdate.  What failed were a couple
> of operations related to integrating with your local binary
> repository and the official project binary distribution, which
> doesn't yet exist for 10.11.  You can solve these issues as
> follows:
>
> 1) Disable the remote binary integration by using 'fink
> configure'
> 2) Run 'fink scanpackages' to set up the missing Packages files
> for your local machine.

I ran 'fink configure'.  At this question:

   Should Fink try to download pre-compiled packages from the binary
   distribution if available? [Y/n]

Do you mean I should answer 'n'?

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] failure to selfupdate

2015-10-06 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> 1) Disable the remote binary integration by using 'fink configure'

   Should Fink try to download pre-compiled packages from the binary
   distribution if available? [Y/n]

I went ahead and answered 'n'.

> 2) Run 'fink scanpackages' to set up the missing Packages files for
> your local machine.

It ran cleanly.

Thanks!

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] failure to selfupdate

2015-10-06 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> Correct.  At least until we get a 10.11 binary distribution built and 
> uploaded.

Thanks!!

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] mutt upgrade

2015-11-30 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> Sure.  Drop a note to the maintainer (from "fink info mutt???) first.

Thanks!!

Tom

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[Fink-beginners] mutt upgrade

2015-11-30 Thread Schneider
% fink list mutt
Information about 9162 packages read in 4 seconds.
 i   mutt 1.5.23-2 Sophisticated text-based mail user agent

http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/UPDATING
says
1.5.24 (2015-08-31)

I'm having a problem with certificates and one of the upgrade items is
about that.  Do you take requests for upgrading?

Thanks,

Tom

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[Fink-beginners] fink fails repeatedly

2016-05-01 Thread Schneider
Dear Fink folks:

I'm on Mac OS X Yosemite 10.10.5.

--
% fink selfupdate
The core packages have been updated. You should now update the other packages
using commands like 'fink update-all'.
--

Then:

--
% fink update-all
New package: 
dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/editors/xml2ag_5.18.6-2_darwin-x86_64.deb
Failed: phase compiling: openmotif4-2.3.4-12 failed

Before reporting any errors, please run "fink selfupdate" and try again.

If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's 
website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
these mailing lists:

The Fink Users List <fink-us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
The Fink Beginners List <fink-beginners@lists.sourceforge.net>.

Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
followed by the actual error output from the compiler.

Also include the following system information:
Package manager version: 0.39.3
Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sun May  1 18:09:22 2016, 10.10, x86_64
Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto
Xcode.app: 7.2.1
Xcode command-line tools: 7.2.0.0.1.1447826929
openmotif4-2.3.4-12 is set to build with only one job.
-

I've been through this cycle repeatedly.  Search of the faq page at
http://www.finkproject.org/faq/index.php?phpLang=en
for 'phase' or 'openmotif' didn't reveal anything.

Now what?

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink install xv fails

2016-05-02 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> I???m getting a bunch of different responses from the download site.
> That seems like a problem on their end, and it???s nothing that the
> Fink Project has any control over.  My best recommendation is to
> keep trying???I was able to get everything downloaded eventually.

I'll send them a note.

> Unfortunately, due to xv???s license we can???t mirror the source
> ourselves or post a precompiled binary.

Yes, it's such a cool program for manipulating images, it really
should be open.

Tom

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[Fink-beginners] broken ftp site

2016-05-02 Thread Schneider
Dear Webmaster:

I am trying to use fink to obtain the xv program but fink fails.  It
turns out that your ftp address has problems:


% wget ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
--2016-05-02 16:36:08--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
   => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
Resolving ftp.cis.upenn.edu... 158.130.67.137
Connecting to ftp.cis.upenn.edu|158.130.67.137|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/xv ... done.
==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 2259124
==> PASV ... done.==> RETR xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... done.
Length: 2259124 (2.2M) (unauthoritative)

xv-3.10a.tar.gz  100%[===>]   2.15M  9.21MB/s   in 0.2s 
  

2016-05-02 16:36:08 (9.21 MB/s) - Data transfer aborted.
Retrying.

--2016-05-02 16:36:10--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
  (try: 2) => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
==> CWD not required.
==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 
Error in server response, closing control connection.
Retrying.

--2016-05-02 16:36:12--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
  (try: 3) => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
Connecting to ftp.cis.upenn.edu|158.130.67.137|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/xv ... done.
==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 2259124
File has already been retrieved.
2016-05-02 16:36:12 (0.00 B/s) - ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’ saved [2259124]



It turns out that the file is actually saved, but
"Error in server response, closing control connection."
apparently causes fink to fail.

I would appreciate knowing when this is fixed.

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fails repeatedly

2016-05-02 Thread Schneider
Hanspeter:

> On 5/1/16 5:21 PM, Schneider wrote:
> >Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
> >generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. "gcc" or "g++"
> >followed by the actual error output from the compiler.
> 
> See above for what to include in an error report. What you included is
> literally the same output for any failure. We need to know what actually
> failed. Scroll upwards in the Terminal output for the actual error.

Thanks for the quick and precise response.  I looked there and
discovered that because of a problem last fall, some system files were
not accessible.  I fixed that and everything went smoothly for
selfupdate and update-all.

All done!

The next install failed - I'll report that in another email for clarity.

Tom

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[Fink-beginners] fink install xv fails

2016-05-02 Thread Schneider
==
% fink install xv
Information about 9352 packages read in 1 seconds.
The following package will be installed or updated:
 xv
curl --connect-timeout 30 -f -L -A 'fink/0.39.3' -O 
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
 Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
  0 00 00 0  0  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 
0curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found
### execution of curl failed, exit code 22
Downloading the file "xv-3.10a.tar.gz" failed.

(1) Give up
(2) Retry the same mirror
(3) Retry another mirror

Default answer will be chosen in 120 seconds...
How do you want to proceed? [3] 
curl --connect-timeout 30 -f -L -A 'fink/0.39.3' -O 
ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
 Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
 63 2206k   63 1398k0 0  1663k  0  0:00:01 --:--:--  0:00:01 
1663kcurl: (18) server did not report OK, got 500
### execution of curl failed, exit code 18
Downloading the file "xv-3.10a.tar.gz" failed.

(1) Give up
(2) Retry the same mirror

==

Hmm.

==
% wget ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
--2016-05-02 02:55:24--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
   => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
Resolving ftp.cis.upenn.edu... 158.130.67.137
Connecting to ftp.cis.upenn.edu|158.130.67.137|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/xv ... done.
==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 2259124
==> PASV ... done.==> RETR xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... done.
Length: 2259124 (2.2M) (unauthoritative)

xv-3.10a.tar.gz  100%[===>]   2.15M  10.2MB/s   in 0.2s 
  

2016-05-02 02:55:24 (10.2 MB/s) - Data transfer aborted.
Retrying.

--2016-05-02 02:55:25--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
  (try: 2) => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
==> CWD not required.
==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 
Error in server response, closing control connection.
Retrying.

--2016-05-02 02:55:27--  ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
  (try: 3) => ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’
Connecting to ftp.cis.upenn.edu|158.130.67.137|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/xv ... done.
==> SIZE xv-3.10a.tar.gz ... 2259124
File has already been retrieved.
2016-05-02 02:55:27 (0.00 B/s) - ‘xv-3.10a.tar.gz’ saved [2259124]


==

Indeed the file came in using wget!

-rw---1 schneidt  wheel2259124 May  2 02:55 xv-3.10a.tar.gz

Hunh?

On another Unix system, I get repeated attempts for
wget ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
but every attempt gives the file!

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

2016-11-22 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> We aren???t that sophisticated???and our build procedures aren???t
> supposed to go online even to check the FAQ.  The easiest thing we
> can do is to have meaningful FAQ links under ???fink info
> , but in this case the relevant FAQ doesn???t even
> exist.

Well, could you point out to the person to check the FAQ and give them
the URL?  Then they wouldn't be dead in the water like I was (until I
got your excellently fast help).

Tom

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[Fink-beginners] fink.tool

2016-11-22 Thread Schneider
I'm installing fink on a new machine and using fink.tool.

Some downloads didn't work - maybe the URLs are out of date?

-
curl: (22) The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found
error: Unable to fetch 
http://xquartz.macosforge.org/downloads/SL/XQuartz-2.7.11.dmg

That FAILS.

need to get it from:
https://www.xquartz.org/releases/XQuartz-2.7.11.html
-

Fetching Fink...
Fetching http://downloads.sourceforge.net/fink/fink-0.41.1.tar.gz
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
 Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
  0   3640 00 0  0  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
  0   3430 00 0  0  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
  0 00 00 0  0  0 --:--:--  0:00:30 --:--:-- 
0curl: (28) Connection timed out after 30861 milliseconds
error: Unable to fetch http://downloads.sourceforge.net/fink/fink-0.41.1.tar.gz
lap 18%

I went there and downloaded by hand.

The "direct link":
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/fink/fink/0.41.1/fink-0.41.1.tar.gz?r==1479862817_mirror=heanet

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

2016-11-22 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> >>> Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> >>> "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> >>> Exiting with failure.
> >> That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.
> > Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?

> Not really. :-)  We repurposed an existing set of virtual packages
> for the purpose, and the current package descriptions aren't very
> helpful in explaining the versioning.

> It???s worth adding to the FAQ, though.

Maybe the FAQ could be automated to display answers upon "Exiting with
failure"?  Pass the fail string to a program that knows where the
right FAQ is and print that FAQ to the user.  Then you can modify the
FAQs as needed.

Might be a bit to set up at first, but after that you would be freed
...

Oh, and a solution to nox could be to have synonyms.  A message has
system 'no-X11' and it looks that up in a synonym table to find 'nox'
...

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[Fink-beginners] impossible question

2016-11-22 Thread Schneider

4% fink install okular4-mac
Information about 10187 packages read in 1 seconds.

fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The
candidates:

(1) texlive-nox-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation
(2) texlive-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation

Pick one: [1] 


Hmm.  Line the two up to be sure they are the same:

(1) texlive-nox-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation
(2) texlive-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation

I don't know how to chose between two identical things!
I'll do (2) for now ...

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Re: [Fink-beginners] impossible question

2016-11-22 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> It???s a very possible question, actually.  Here???s the situation.
>
> 1)  texlive-nox-base and texlive-base _aren???t_ identical.  The
> -nox version is built without -x11 support.
>
> 2)  However, the short description field that fink uses is always
> the same if different variants of a package are built using the same
> package description, which is the case here.  That???s why the same
> text shows up for the different packages.
>
> In addition, the dependency checker isn???t set up to remember what
> you selected previously, so you will be prompted multiple times.

Oh, thanks for the quick response.  If possible I would suggest
modifying the question to be more clear:

(1) texlive-nox-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation without X11
(2) texlive-base: Base programs for a TeX Live installation with X11

and/or say 'noX' or better 'no-X11'.

As for responding - I have X11 so should have selected (2)?

Thanks for great work on fink!

Regards,

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Re: [Fink-beginners] fink fail

2016-11-22 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> > Can't resolve dependency "system-xfree86-dev (>= 3:2.7.112-3)" for package
> > "libxaw3dxft-1.6.2-7" (no matching packages/versions found)
> > Exiting with failure.
> 
> That indicates that you need to install XQuartz 2.7.11.

Thanks as always for your rapid responses.

Is there a way that I could know this without bothering you?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies

2016-12-10 Thread Schneider
Martin:

> Fink offered you some advice:
> 
> > Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies!
> > 
> > Fink isn't sure how to install the above packages safely. You may be able 
> > to fix
> > things by running:
> > 
> >   fink scanpackages
> >   sudo apt-get update
> >   sudo apt-get install fig2dev=3.2.6-2
> 
> You see this just above the list of the 146 successfully installed packages.
> Try it, and then update-all again.

Thanks, that worked!

In this case there were 376556 lines of output from fink and the
message above was at 376393.  So there were 163 wrapping lines of text
away from the end of the display.  With wraps that's over 300 lines. 
Of course I'm not going to look at 376556 lines of output to figure
out what's wrong and I'm not likely to see it if it's more than 80
lines from the end.

SO It would be useful for fink to collect such messages and repeat a
summary at the end.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies

2016-12-10 Thread Schneider
Martin:

> General advice: If you run a huge update-all as you did (160 packages to
> install or update) and it fails, first run update-all again.
> 
> It will probably fail again, but you'll see the error more clearly, because
> it starts where the first attempt left off, with all the successfully
> installed packages and their now uninteresting output out of the way.

Thanks for the tip, that's useful to know.  I still think it would
help folks to have all the errors at the end though.

> BTW, 146 out of 160 packages installed before the first hiccup appears is
> quite a respectable score.

Indeed!

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

2016-12-15 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> The list archives exist in multiple places, though those aren't all
> currently in the email footers.
> https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/mailman/?source=navbar has links to
> the direct sourceforge list archives.

Ok.  I found it awkward to use.  One has to go to the end of the list
that appears from a search for 'xfig' - and then it is not easy to
find the relevant postings.  I didn't find the discussion if there was
one ...

> We can probably make an older xfig available, but it would take a bit
> of effort.

That would be good!

> There's an immediate (albeit ugly) workaround, however, which is to
> copy your text from another window and paste it into an xfig text box.

I put text into my OS X buffer but it doesn't paste into the window.

I found that I have the old xfig binary but it now doesn't allow
typing in text boxes either!  I suspect that my switch to XQuartz is
responsible.  Does anyone know about this?  How do I switch back to
X11?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

2016-12-15 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> For example, I just now entered some text in an OS X Terminal
> window, selected and copied it, and then used middle-click (since I
> have a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel here) to paste the text
> into a file dialogs in xfig.

I've been able to do that too with a similar mouse.  But it just
doesn't activate the text window.

> It???s possible that the update to XQuartz broke keystroke entry into the 
> file dialogs here, but I haven???t found any reports about it yet other than 
> here so I don???t know for sure.
> 
> XQuartz is the only supported Xwindows option for 10.8 +.  

The icon I have has changed to a black X with an orange ring around
it.  I believe it was an X on a white background before i installed
Xquartz.

Looks like I've trashed my X windows maybe?

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[Fink-beginners] xfig broken

2016-12-14 Thread Schneider
I just installed the latest xfig (3.2.6-2) using fink.

It works, but I can't type into text boxes.  I think I saw something
about this somewhere, perhaps on fink but I can't get to the archive
to check.

The previous xfig 3.2.5c worked.

Possibly relevant:
I recently switched to Xquartz.
Running Mac OS X 10.10.5.

What can I do?  Is there a way to revert back using fink?  Should I
dump Xquartz (which isn't helping since I could not install what I
wanted that uses it)?

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[Fink-beginners] broken archive link

2016-12-14 Thread Schneider
As of December 11th, at the end of the fink beginners mailing list
emails is:

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I wanted to look up a discussion so I went to:

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.apple.fink.beginners

I got:

Page Not Found

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

2017-01-13 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> I wasn???t monitoring your bug report for Xfig, but the person who
> responded on the ticket let me know about it.  I???ve updated xfig
> appropriately, and the fix works for me.  Look for version 3.2.6-3
> of xfig when you do a ???fink selfupdate'.

YAY It works

I had a bit of trouble so for the record here's what I did and what
happened:

I did:
fink selfupdate
fink update-all

No problem.

Then lanunch xfig:

% xfig
Error: Can't open display: 
/private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.3XMvjpgNfo/org.macosforge.xquartz:0

But also:

% xterm
xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: 
/private/tmp/com.apple.launchd.3XMvjpgNfo/org.macosforge.xquartz:0

So I googled that error:
https://www.google.com/search?=+Xt+error:+Can%27t+open+display:

> Also, check that you have X11 installed on the client end. I was
> getting this issue when I upgraded my Mac to OS X Mountain Lion.
> Mountain Lion removes X11, so you have to install it again via the
> open source X Quartz project. http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing

That jumps to

https://www.xquartz.org/

I already had that installed, but started the install anyway and it
said:

> If this is your first time installing XQuartz, you may wish to
> logout and log back in.  This will update your DISPLAY environment
> variable to point to XQuartz.app rather than X11.app.  If you would
> prefer to keep using X11.app as your default server (you can still
> launch XQuartz.app manually), you'll want to disable
> /Library/LaunchAgents/org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist using
> launchctl(1).

So I figured I would complete the install (in case some component
was somehow broken).  It installed cleanly.

I restarted my machine and now xfig works - I can type
into the boxes, create figures, save them.

HUGE THANKS

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

2016-12-20 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> > I could not get it to take anything in SaveAs.
>
> Hmm.  Maybe check what you have on the Pasteboard tab of the XQuartz
> preferences.  Another option might be to use an xterm or other X11
> terminal.

That was wrong.  I found I could paste using the middle mouse button. 
Can't delete though, as you pointed out.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig broken

2016-12-20 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

> Yeah, it's an ugly option.  You can paste into a filename field and
> then use a window button to  save/export/load/etc. but it doesn't
> actually become fully functional at any point, so no backspace, cursor,

I could not get it to take anything in SaveAs.

>   The fact that the drawing text tool does work suggests that the
> keyboard interaction problem is localized specifically to the dialogs,
> but I'm not sure what's going on there.

I confirm that the text tool does work.

> No, this particular item is broken for everybody.  Hopefully we can
> scare up a fix.  It might be worth filing a ticket
> on [2]https://sourceforge.net/p/mcj/tickets/ , which pertains to this
> newer xfig.  I haven't tried to use it for anything in 15 years,
> though, so I'm probably not a good person to do that.

Ok, I use it a lot for figures so I reported it:

https://sourceforge.net/p/mcj/tickets/7/

Thanks,

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[Fink-beginners] Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies

2016-12-07 Thread Schneider
Oh oh.  I did:

 6  17:03   fink selfupdate
 7  17:06   fink selfupdate
 8  17:07   fink update-all

The final line for the update-all is:

Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies

Now what?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: Fink::SysState: Could not resolve inconsistent dependencies

2016-12-07 Thread Schneider
Alexander:

Thanks as always for your quick help.

> We don???t know what packages were in the list to be installed from
> the above, so there really isn???t much to go on here.  Sometimes
> there is a message about a particular package which is having a
> dependency problem, but in other cases a perceived inconsistency may
> come out of fink???s dependency engine without mentioning an
> individual package.  Without seeing verbatim output from ???fink
> update-all??? we can???t offer the proper advice.

I captured the entire output but it's 51,086,472 bytes long!  So I
have temporarily put it at:

https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov/fail2016dec07-edited.txt

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[Fink-beginners] (no subject)

2003-12-11 Thread Dominik Schneider
I've finally gotten fink to work and would like to run gaim.  i 
installed it without error but when i startx and type gaim in the xterm 
window, i get buffer error.  any idea what that means?  i'm running the 
latest fink binaries on panther.  also, i keep reading aobut 
xdarwin.app  what is that that bc i don't have it, all i have is x11 in 
my utilities.  further, i hvae gotten other programs to work like xmms 
and xpilot.  also, i don't seem to have a .xinitrc or .cshrc aren't 
theysupposed to be my user's home directory? do i need them? thanks

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Re: [Fink-beginners] (no subject)

2003-12-11 Thread Dominik Schneider
hi, turns out i remembered wrong, sorry about that.  the actual error 
is bus error.  i could only take a screenshot since the xterm doesn't 
let you copy text. 
 inline: pastedGraphic1.tiffthanks
dominik
ps- is this how i'm supposed to respond?  i hit reply to all so that a 
copy was sent to fink-beginners

On Dec 11, 2003, at 11:07, Alexander K. hansen wrote:

On Dec 11, 2003, at 10:21 AM, Dominik Schneider wrote:

I've finally gotten fink to work and would like to run gaim.  i 
installed it without error but when i startx and type gaim in the 
xterm window, i get buffer error.  any idea what that means?
Can you paste the exact error into a message?

 i'm running the latest fink binaries on panther.  also, i keep 
reading aobut xdarwin.app  what is that that bc i don't have it, all 
i have is x11 in my utilities.
You would only have it if you installed XFree86 (instead of Apple's 
X11).  It's nothing to worry about.

further, i hvae gotten other programs to work like xmms and xpilot.  
also, i don't seem to have a .xinitrc or .cshrc aren't theysupposed 
to be my user's home directory?
Only if you create them yourself.  Otherwise the system will use its 
own startup file (e.g.
/private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc).

do i need them? thanks

Since the default shell on Panther is bash, you don't need a .cshrc .  
Presumably Fink set up the corresponding file for bash, ~/.profile, 
for you as part of its setup.

You may want to create a .xinitrc for yourself, if you want to play 
around with X11 but leave the system's version intact for safety.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] (no subject)

2003-12-11 Thread Dominik Schneider
hi, i did apt-get install gaim (so i guess that means binary)  gaim is 
version 0.68

dominik

On Dec 11, 2003, at 16:50, Alexander K. hansen wrote:

What version of gaim is this?  I vaguely remember that people had 
problems with gaim before.

Also, did you install it from binary or source?

--Alex

On Dec 11, 2003, at 4:42 PM, Dominik Schneider wrote:

hi, turns out i remembered wrong, sorry about that.  the actual error 
is bus error.  i could only take a screenshot since the xterm doesn't 
let you copy text.  pastedGraphic1.tiff
thanks
dominik

ps- is this how i'm supposed to respond?  i hit reply to all so that 
a copy was sent to fink-beginners

On Dec 11, 2003, at 11:07, Alexander K. hansen wrote:

On Dec 11, 2003, at 10:21 AM, Dominik Schneider wrote:

I've finally gotten fink to work and would like to run gaim.  i 
installed it without error but when i startx and type gaim in the 
xterm window, i get buffer error.  any idea what that means?
Can you paste the exact error into a message?

 i'm running the latest fink binaries on panther.  also, i keep 
reading aobut xdarwin.app  what is that that bc i don't have it, 
all i have is x11 in my utilities.
You would only have it if you installed XFree86 (instead of Apple's 
X11).  It's nothing to worry about.

further, i hvae gotten other programs to work like xmms and xpilot. 
 also, i don't seem to have a .xinitrc or .cshrc aren't 
theysupposed to be my user's home directory?
Only if you create them yourself.  Otherwise the system will use its 
own startup file (e.g.
/private/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc).

do i need them? thanks

Since the default shell on Panther is bash, you don't need a .cshrc 
.  Presumably Fink set up the corresponding file for bash, 
~/.profile, for you as part of its setup.

You may want to create a .xinitrc for yourself, if you want to play 
around with X11 but leave the system's version intact for safety.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] (no subject)

2003-12-11 Thread Dominik Schneider
hi, thanks for the update.  i'll work on getting the unstable version 
tomorrow after my final.

dominik

On Dec 11, 2003, at 17:29, Mothra wrote:

Dominik Schneider wrote:

hi, i did apt-get install gaim (so i guess that means binary)  gaim 
is version 0.68

dominik

Use the unstable tree and install Gaim 0.74.
0.68 is rather old now and ALOT has been fixed/changed since then.
They try to put out a new point release every other thursday and youre 
about three months or so behind on the bugfixes.
0.68 came out 08-31-03.

I havent had it crash on my system with a bus error since version 
0.64/65  or so..

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Re: [Fink-beginners] (no subject)

2003-12-11 Thread Dominik Schneider
hi,  so i managed to install another version of gaim (.74-11) using 
fink update gaim.  by changing the fink.conf (adding unstable/... to 
tree: )  i also selected cvs instead of rsync, etc.  2 things: first, i 
can now successfully open gaim (yay!!) however all the text in the 
window is written in weird symbol (like a box or something) so i can't 
see anything prefs or such.  any suggestions?  second, since i changed 
my fink.conf, will fink now always automatically install the unstable 
version of everthing? or just if i use fink commmand instead of 
apt-get? thanks for all your help everyone. i've just started learning 
unix stuff

dominik

On Dec 11, 2003, at 17:29, Mothra wrote:

Dominik Schneider wrote:

hi, i did apt-get install gaim (so i guess that means binary)  gaim 
is version 0.68

dominik

Use the unstable tree and install Gaim 0.74.
0.68 is rather old now and ALOT has been fixed/changed since then.
They try to put out a new point release every other thursday and youre 
about three months or so behind on the bugfixes.
0.68 came out 08-31-03.

I havent had it crash on my system with a bus error since version 
0.64/65  or so..

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Mozilla bauen mit fink

2003-12-12 Thread Dominik Schneider
i'm new to this as well so i can't give you much of an answer but why 
not run mozilla in osx natively?

dominik

On Dec 12, 2003, at 9:12, Arvid Warnecke wrote:

Hallo,

soweit ich sehen konnte, scheint es kein Mozilla im stable branch zu 
geben. Da ich nur ungern auf unstable wechseln möchte, drängt sich mir 
nun die Frage auf, ob ich dennoch irgendwie Mozilla mit fink 
compilieren kann? Oder ist es generell möglich sich einfach die 
Sourcen vom mozilla.org zu ziehen und zu compilieren?

Ich bin noch recht neu in der Fink-Welt und daher noch nicht so ganz 
vertraut mit dem Zusammenspiel von Mac OS X und Fink.

Danke und viele Grüße,
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2003-12-12 Thread Dominik Schneider
so i just tried gaim again to make sure it was still a problem and now 
i have a different error: gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a 
core file.  then is give the whole speel about bugs


Picture 3.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


i guess i'll try to dl new source and recompile it, maybe the bug 
has already been fixed?

thanks dominik

On Dec 12, 2003, at 8:44, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

I'm not sure about the text issue--I'm building it right now to see if 
I can replicate the problem.

Turning on unstable does mean that fink install will select package 
versions from unstable--apt-get will continue to give the same 
versions that it did before.

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On Dec 11, 2003, at 11:50 PM, Dominik Schneider wrote:

hi,  so i managed to install another version of gaim (.74-11) using 
fink update gaim.  by changing the fink.conf (adding unstable/... to 
tree: )  i also selected cvs instead of rsync, etc.  2 things: first, 
i can now successfully open gaim (yay!!) however all the text in the 
window is written in weird symbol (like a box or something) so i 
can't see anything prefs or such.  any suggestions?  second, since i 
changed my fink.conf, will fink now always automatically install the 
unstable version of everthing? or just if i use fink commmand instead 
of apt-get? thanks for all your help everyone. i've just started 
learning unix stuff

dominik

On Dec 11, 2003, at 17:29, Mothra wrote:

Dominik Schneider wrote:

hi, i did apt-get install gaim (so i guess that means binary)  gaim 
is version 0.68

dominik

Use the unstable tree and install Gaim 0.74.
0.68 is rather old now and ALOT has been fixed/changed since then.
They try to put out a new point release every other thursday and 
youre about three months or so behind on the bugfixes.
0.68 came out 08-31-03.

I havent had it crash on my system with a bus error since version 
0.64/65  or so..

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Mozilla bauen mit fink

2003-12-12 Thread Dominik Schneider
oh ok, well i'm glad it worked out

dominik

On Dec 12, 2003, at 19:35, Arvid Warnecke wrote:

Hello,

Am 12.12.2003 um 23:23 schrieb Dominik Schneider:

i'm new to this as well so i can't give you much of an answer but why 
not run mozilla in osx natively?

If I do so, I have to use X11 rootless, because I have to switch to 
often between OSX and X11.

I just build mozilla-1.5 from sources. Worked.
Only problem I have is now that the build directory is now about 2 GB 
large and /usr/local/lib/mozilla-1.5 is aboutt 900 MB. :-(
And if I start mozilla from /usr/local/bin it seems to be started in 
OSX, but the xterm I started it from is in X11. That's a bit strange.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] KDE from console problems

2003-12-13 Thread Dominik Schneider
i don't know about most of the errors, but have you tried export 
DISPLAY=:0   before doing kdeinit for the can't open display command  
(bash command)  the faq also provides the command for tcsh

dominik

On Dec 13, 2003, at 1:37, Adam Flaherty wrote:

Hello,

I am running Panther and have successfully installed KDE through the 
Fink bundle. KDE works fine in full screen mode using Apple's X11 from 
Aqua; however, I would like to run KDE without Aqua. From the console 
startx just gives me a blue screen with mouse and nothing else; 
xinit does the same;  kdeinit can't open display; and xdm just 
gives me a login screen that doesn't work. I have no hair left, any 
help would be highly appreciated.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] XMMS issue on 10.3

2003-12-18 Thread Dominik Schneider
http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-packages.php#xmms-quiet

On Dec 18, 2003, at 20:58, Lon Lentz wrote:

  Brand new iBook running 10.3.1. Installed xmms which starts up and 
seems
to be working. The only problem I am having is that there are no audio 
i/o
plugins so right now I can't play anything. Can someone tell me what 
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[Fink-beginners] perl can't find Fink-installed modules

2004-10-13 Thread Adam Schneider
I just installed Fink and used it to install the perl DBD::mysql module, because
this module wouldn't install any other way.

So, DBD::mysql works fine when I try to use it from the command line, but when I
try to invoke it from a CGI script, it fails, because the new /sw/lib
directories are not in perl's library paths.

Here's the error:
install_driver(mysql) failed: Can't locate DBD/mysql.pm in @INC

I assume that it's happening like this because when I run it myself, it's
getting the PERL5LIB environment variable from my home directory.  But how can I
expand perl's @INC list for EVERYONE, including nobody, which is the name
under which Apache runs?


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[Fink-beginners] failed install xfree86 on Intel

2006-04-06 Thread Romy Schneider
I'm trying to install xfree86 on a new MacBook Pro.  I haven't  
installed any other versions of X11 yet (including the one on the  
Apple disk).  The install plugs along happily for quite a while and  
then ends with:


Selecting previously deselected package xfree86.
(Reading database ... 4129 files and directories
currently installed.)
Unpacking xfree86 (from
.../xfree86_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb) ...
WARNING: if you compile X11 applications against this
XFree86 release,
you will *not* be able to run them if you decide to
revert to Apple's
X11 provided with the OS.
Selecting previously deselected package
xfree86-shlibs.
Unpacking xfree86-shlibs (from
.../xfree86-shlibs_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb) ...
Setting up xfree86-shlibs (4.5.0-1024) ...
Setting up xfree86 (4.5.0-1024) ...
/sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/xfree86.postinst: line 23: 17544
Segmentation fault  /usr/X11R6/bin/fc-cache
/sw/bin/dpkg: error processing xfree86 (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error
exit status 139
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xfree86
### execution of /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait failed, exit
code 1
Failed: can't batch-install packages:
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-i386/x11-system/ 
xfree86_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-i386/x11-system/xfree86- 
shlibs_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb


When I try an install xfree86 again or a update xfree86 it says  
its attempting to replace it, then fails very quickly with what looks  
like a similar error.  When I try to remove it, it says xfree86 is  
not installed.  I'm stuck, suggestions?


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Re: [Fink-beginners] failed install xfree86 on Intel

2006-04-07 Thread Romy Schneider
Actually, I just found my compile problem documented on the FInk Wiki  
page, listed with an unknown cause and solution.  Any ideas on how  
quickly this might be resolved or if anyone is currently working on it?


http://wiki.opendarwin.org/index.php/Fink:Package_issues

In the meantime, I suppose I will just install X11 from Apple and  
replace it later.


romy

On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:


On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Romy Schneider wrote:

I'm trying to install xfree86 on a new MacBook Pro.  I haven't  
installed any other versions of X11 yet (including the one on the  
Apple disk).  The install plugs along happily for quite a while  
and then ends with:


Selecting previously deselected package xfree86.
(Reading database ... 4129 files and directories
currently installed.)
Unpacking xfree86 (from
.../xfree86_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb) ...
WARNING: if you compile X11 applications against this
XFree86 release,
you will *not* be able to run them if you decide to
revert to Apple's
X11 provided with the OS.
Selecting previously deselected package
xfree86-shlibs.
Unpacking xfree86-shlibs (from
.../xfree86-shlibs_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb) ...
Setting up xfree86-shlibs (4.5.0-1024) ...
Setting up xfree86 (4.5.0-1024) ...
/sw/var/lib/dpkg/info/xfree86.postinst: line 23: 17544
Segmentation fault  /usr/X11R6/bin/fc-cache
/sw/bin/dpkg: error processing xfree86 (--install):
subprocess post-installation script returned error
exit status 139
Errors were encountered while processing:
xfree86
### execution of /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait failed, exit
code 1
Failed: can't batch-install packages:
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-i386/x11-system/ 
xfree86_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb
/sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-i386/x11-system/xfree86- 
shlibs_4.5.0-1024_darwin-i386.deb


When I try an install xfree86 again or a update xfree86 it  
says its attempting to replace it, then fails very quickly with  
what looks like a similar error.  When I try to remove it, it says  
xfree86 is not installed. I'm stuck, suggestions?


This is similar to behaviour I've seen with xorg. I've gotten it to  
work

two ways:

1) delete everything X and start over with Apple's X11. This includes
   everything that has dependencies on X. It's a long slog by hand and
   it'll be easier to delete everything and start over.

2) delete everything X and start over with xfree86 or xorg with NO
   BINDIST. This means COMPILE EVERYTHING YOURSELF. The bindist was
   made with Apple's X11 and will not (for me anyway) work with  
xfree86

   or xorg.

Obviously, both kind of suck. And for option 2, I'm not sure if it  
runs
or not since I just finished compiling remotely and I have to go  
home to

see if X actually runs.

Good luck.

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[Fink-beginners] website down?

2013-08-02 Thread Thomas Schneider
From the fink home page:

http://fink.thetis.ig42.org/index.php?phpLang=en

I want to learn about available packages so in the 'Sections' on the left
I click on 'Packages'  to get to

http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php?phpLang=en

This does not respond for a long time and then gives:

--

ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved

The following error was encountered while trying to retrieve the URL: 
http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/index.php?

Read Error

The system returned: (104) Connection reset by peer

An error condition occurred while reading data from the network. Please retry 
your request.

Generated Fri, 02 Aug 2013 10:07:27 GMT

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Looks like the website is broken?

Also, I had trouble listing wget:

fink list wget

for a while, but it seem ok now:

% fink list wget
Information about 7749 packages read in 2 seconds.
 p   gnu-wget  [virtual package]
 i   wget 1.14-2   Automatic web site retriever (SSL)
 wget-gnutls  1.14-2   Automatic web site retriever (SSL)
 wget-gnutls-idn  1.14-2   Automatic web site retriever (SSL)
 wget-idn 1.14-2   Automatic web site retriever (SSL)

Was there a problem with that or was it just that I didn't have fink
fully installed yet?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] website down?

2013-08-02 Thread Thomas Schneider
Alexander:

 Looks like the website is broken?
 
 Yeah, this is an ongoing issue.

Oh, thanks.

 The backup site doesn't run its own copy of the package database scripts.

The location was pointed to from the main fink page so I don't
understand why you call it a 'backup'.  I also don't understand why it
would need to run something.  It's unclear to me even what the result
of looking at the packages page is even if things work!

 There's no way to tell definitively, but my guess is that you first
 checked before you downloaded a set of package descriptions.

I needed to selfupdate fink and then was able to install wget. 
Thanks.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] website down?

2013-08-02 Thread Thomas Schneider
Alexander:

 I've been with the project for 12 years, so I kind of know what I'm
 talking about, usually.

... and thanks so much for giving responsive answers!!!

 The real main page is at www.finkproject.org, and that is down.
 fink.thetis.ig42.org _is_ a backup.

AH!  I didn't realize that.  I went to the main page and it
didn't respond so I went to what looked like it and didn't realize
it's a mirror.  All explained.  Thanks.  Good luck getting the main
site up again.

 That confirms my guess. :-)  Before you do the first selfupdate Fink
 only has a minimal set of package descriptions available.

Ok, I'm obviously still a newbee about Fink ...

Note:  you sent me two emails, the first was broken at:

 That confirms my guess. :-)  Before you do the first selfupdate Fink
 only has

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Failed: phase compiling: libwebp4-0.3.1-1 failed

2013-08-06 Thread Thomas Schneider
 Freeglut is already installed:

Folks, it would simplify the list and save time of your readers if you
deleted irrelevant parts of previous messages.

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[Fink-beginners] Xfig Error message

2014-01-15 Thread Thomas Schneider
Brian and Fink:

I have the latest version of xfig from fink:

% fink list xfig
Information about 8929 packages read in 1 seconds.
 i   xfig 3.2.5b-3 Menu-driven tool to create graphical objects

(Note that there is apparently a newer version available from
http://xfig.org/art17.html ; the latest is xfig.3.2.5c.full.tar.gz .)

When I run this xfig on my Mac OS X 10.7.5 a popup comes up:

  Xfig: Error messages

  Either you have a very old app-defaults file installed (Fig),
  or there is none installed at all.
  You should install the correct version or you may lose some features.
  This may be done with make install in the xfig source directory.

I don't know what this means or what to really do about it (when using
the Fink version; with the compiled version maybe I could fix it). 
How do I fix this on the Fink version or how do I avoid getting the
message every time I start xfig?  (It gets in the way.)

Thanks,

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig Error message

2014-01-15 Thread Thomas Schneider
Brian:

 It looks in the application defaults file Fig, in the
 /etc/X11/app-defaults or /usr/etc/X11/app-defaults directory
 (you will have to find that directory and file) and it compares the
 Fig.version in that file:
 
 Fig.version:3.2.5c
 
 with the version compiled into the program.  So if the executable
 says it is 3.2.5b-3 (title bar) then change that string
 in the Fig file to 3.2.5b-3.

Ok, thanks for explaining.  Neither /etc/X11 nor /usr/etc exist on my
Mac OS X 10.7.5.  xfig is installed in /sw/bin.

Ah. /sw/etc/app-defaults/Fig is the file.

It contains:

Fig.version:3.2.5b

That matches the title bar.  Perhaps the fink version points to the
wrong place?

Maybe the fink people can fix this.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig Error message

2014-01-15 Thread Thomas Schneider
Brian:

 Hmm, perhaps there is another app-defaults directory.
 Try appres Fig | grep version and see what it says.  appres tells
 you the defaults for programs.
 If it says something other than 3.2.5b then there is another Fig
 file in another app-defaults directory.

1% appres Fig 
2% 

It gave nothing.

Also:

3% appres xfig
4% 

but

% appres xterm

gives me a long list - so appres is working.

I don't have a compiled form in my files.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig Error message

2014-01-16 Thread Thomas Schneider
Alexander:

 After a bit of checking, I found that we explicitly set xfig to look
 in the right place for its app-default file at compile time. The
 lookup can be overridden by environment variables and dot files, as
 Martin mentioned in his message, so I'd recommend checking on what
 he mentioned.

AH!!!

setenv XAPPLRESDIR /sw/etc/app-defaults/

Having that in my environment does the trick!

Solved!  It would help to have fink tell the user, at the end of the
install, that the above is needed in their environment!

It's not clear though why the installed fink didn't default to that.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] Xfig Error message

2014-01-16 Thread Thomas Schneider
Alexander:

 This is supposed to happen automatically after the app-defaults
 package is installed, though one either needs to start a new
 terminal or to source /sw/bin/init.(c)sh again.  If you didn't start
 a new terminal or if you aren't using source /sw/bin/init.csh in
 your .cshrc (or whatever) to load all of Fink's environment hooks,
 then that would account for the variable not having been set for
 you.

Yup.  Trivial.  I put that source into my path and it works instead of
the single setting.  This may make all programs loaded by fink run
smoother ... :-)  In fact, xfig launches a lot faster this way!!

It's a case of RTFM (read the manual) ...

THANKS!!

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[Fink-beginners] xfig failing again

2014-03-05 Thread Thomas Schneider
I did this to update:

% fink update xfig
% fink selfupdate
% fink update-all
% fink update xfig
Password:
Information about 9049 packages read in 2 seconds.
No packages to install.

This is the problem:

% /sw/bin/xfig
Error: Can't open display: /tmp/launch-bCPkn5/org.x:0

Xfig does not launch!  What to do??

The previous problem was solved by making sure that I have:

% echo $XAPPLRESDIR
/sw/etc/app-defaults/

Mac OS X version 10.7.5.

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Re: [Fink-beginners] xfig failing again

2014-03-05 Thread Thomas Schneider
Alexander:

 You might try quitting X11 if it's currently running.

It wasn't.

 If that fails maybe try logging out and back in again.

That worked!!!

Thanks!

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[Fink-beginners] 404 Not found!

2014-04-12 Thread Thomas Schneider
I did a

fink selfupdate
and after flying past a bunch of stuff, it hung:

Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/main Packages
  404 Not Found
Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/main Release
Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/crypto Packages
  404 Not Found
Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/crypto Release
Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/main Packages
  404 Not Found
Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/main Release
Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/crypto Packages
  404 Not Found
Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/crypto Release
Failed to fetch 
http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/release/main/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found
Failed to fetch 
http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/release/crypto/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found
Failed to fetch 
http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/current/main/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found
Failed to fetch 
http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/current/crypto/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
  404 Not Found

Yikes!!!

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Re: [Fink-beginners] 404 Not found!

2014-04-12 Thread Thomas Schneider
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 07:06:35PM -0700, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 On 4/12/14, 12:10 PM, Thomas Schneider wrote:
 I did a
 
 fink selfupdate
 and after flying past a bunch of stuff, it hung:
 
 Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/main Packages
404 Not Found
 Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/main Release
 Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/crypto Packages
404 Not Found
 Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/crypto Release
 Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/main Packages
404 Not Found
 Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/main Release
 Err http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/crypto Packages
404 Not Found
 Ign http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/current/crypto Release
 Failed to fetch 
 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/release/main/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
   404 Not Found
 Failed to fetch 
 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/release/crypto/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
   404 Not Found
 Failed to fetch 
 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/current/main/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
   404 Not Found
 Failed to fetch 
 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/bindist/dists/10.4/current/crypto/binary-darwin-i386/Packages
   404 Not Found
 
 Yikes!!!
 
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 What OS version are you on?

10.9.2,
% fink --version
Package manager version: 0.24.17
Distribution version: 0.8.1

 If, indeed, you're on 10.4, then what you're missing are binary
 packages which were built in 2005 or thereabouts.  If you want to
 shut those errors up you can do a couple of things:
 
 1)  Use fink configure and turn off Use binary packages when available
 
 2)  Edit a few of the files from fink to point thee binary
 distribution in the right direction.  I don't have access to 10.4 so
 I can't actually test what needs to be done, but try adding the
 following lines to your /sw/etc/apt/sources.list (don't replace the
 current ones yet):
 
 deb http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.4 stable main crypto
 deb http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.4 release main crypto
 
 If those do indeed work then I think I know what the edits within
 the fink code should be to fix this up right.

Not sure how old the fink itself is ...  If it needs an upgrade
what do I do to keep the stuff I've already installed?

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Re: [Fink-beginners] 404 Not found!

2014-04-12 Thread Thomas Schneider
Alexander:

 It's worse than I thought.
 
 You're on a completely unsupported configuration.  Apparently the
 installer for 10.4/i386 works on 10.9, which is very surprising.
 There's no update path whatsoever, since we don't support i386 on
 10.9, or indeed updates from any earlier distribution to 10.9.
 
 http://www.finkproject.org/download/10.9-upgrade.php?phpLang=en has
 suggestions about how to capture your list of installed packages.
 The current fink release for 10.9, which is fink-0.36.4.1, supports
 the current 10.9 binary distribution.
 
 https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fink/scripts/master/srcinstaller/Install%20Fink.tool
 is a script that will help automate the install process (it only
 works on 10.9) by automatically downloading that version of fink.

I followed the directions (which is tricky since they keep on
branching) and was then able to install xfig and it runs beautifully. 
That was going from a 2006 version to 2013.

By the way, in your instructions you give a command that wipes out the
/sw directory.  Instead of doing that, I moved it to /tmp (using
sudo).  That way I could go back to the old version since it did have
a running version of xfig.

The version in /tmp didn't interfere and next time I reboot the files
will go away.

I recommend changing your instructions to mv instead of rm.  In
general I don't delete files, I just throw them in /tmp for safety.

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR RAPID RESPONSE!!!

Regards,

Tom

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Re: [Fink-beginners] broken ftp site (T#720242)

2016-05-03 Thread Schneider, Thomas (NIH/NCI) [E]
***

It could be a network problem getting into your site for some versions
of wget.  But they all get 'error in server response'.

Let me try the latest curl on that new FreeBSD


% curl -o w ftp://ftp.cis.upenn.edu/pub/xv/xv-3.10a.tar.gz
  % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time  Current
 Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft  Speed
100 2206k  100 2206k0 0  2888k  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 2887k
curl: (18) server did not report OK, got 500
% curl -V
curl 7.47.0 (amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) libcurl/7.47.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1s zlib/1.2.8
Protocols: dict file ftp ftps gopher http https imap imaps pop3 pop3s rtsp smb 
smbs smtp smtps telnet tftp 
Features: AsynchDNS IPv6 Largefile GSS-API Kerberos SPNEGO NTLM NTLM_WB SSL 
libz TLS-SRP UnixSockets 


I got the file 'w' and it is the same as before.

So your server "did not report OK, got 500".  whatever that means.

All of these systems report a sever problem.

Tom

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Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory
Molecular Information Theory Group
Frederick, Maryland  21702-1201
schne...@mail.nih.gov
https://schneider.ncifcrf.gov (current link)
https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent link)

ps:  diffall is part of my toolkit.
https://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/ftp/diffall


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