[abcusers] Quicktim 5 preview silences BarFly
Any BarFly users thinking of installing the newest version of Quicktime should be aware that the Quicktime Musical Instruments which come with it are seriously buggy. I've tried it on two machines, and in one case it just produced no sound (not only with BarFly, but with Movie Player when trying to play MIDI or music movies.) and in the other it would play only when "Highlight Note Played" was selected, then crash at the end of the tune. If you are going to install QT 5 preview, make sure that you keep the QT 4.1.2 installer around so that you can revert to the last good version. Phil Taylor To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Quicktim 5 preview silences BarFly
Phil Taylor wrote: Any BarFly users thinking of installing the newest version of Quicktime should be aware that the Quicktime Musical Instruments which come with it are seriously buggy... Thanks Phil. I guess I'll stick to QuickTime 4 for a while then. Frank To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] multible chord lines
I'm wondering what is the status of abc's (lack of) ability to handle more than one set of chords, alternatives printed above each other? I know that yaps had a way of doing this, but is there any plans on getting it into the standard, and does other abc-applications support this? Also how are things looking with the (lack of) ability to give you the triangle symbol in chords for major 7th chords, and the use of real accidentals instead of # and b from the chord font? -- Atte André Jensen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] A4/letter in abc2ps
On 12 Oct 2000, Laura Conrad wrote: "Atte" == Jensen Atte writes: Atte Hello As it is now my abc2ps seems to produce postscript Atte files in letter size. That's odd, because the default has always been A4, and I've always had to do something to get letter. Well I don't know if it's letter, that was just an assumption. But I know that my printouts gets clipped, and I know that I dont like that :-) Should I put examples on my sitespace for you to take a look at? Atte scale 0.60 ... Add: pageheight 29.7 That would be in the format file, right? I think. If that's how many centimeters high an A4 page is. Or use acroread and set the "fit to page" option. Not really userfriendly. The majority of people would grap the multi-page .ps or .pdf file and when the first couple of pages (which doesn't clip) look fine they'll print the whole thing without adjusting any settings... Or use "psresize -pletter". Where and how?? -- Atte André Jensen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] multible chord lines
On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'm wondering what is the status of abc's (lack of) ability to handle mor= | e | than one set of chords, alternatives printed above each other? I know tha= | t | yaps had a way of doing this, but is there any plans on getting it into | the standard, and does other abc-applications support this? Perhaps it doesn't explicitly belong in the standard, other than as a comment saying that it's a possibility. Something that a lot of GUI software does is understand \n inside quotes as meaning to start a new line. That is, a chord symbol like "G\nEm" should produce a two-line bit of text, with "G" on the first line and "Em" on the second. All we really need is for the software to handle this correctly. Of course, if we really want to tweak the standard, we could also say that something like "G""Em" does the same thing. That is, multiple chords are explicitly allowed, and should be handled however is most appropriate for the particular app. A music formatter should show them both in some reasonable format. But I think I'd personally prefer for the \n notation to "just work". Doesn't matter at all to me. I just really need this. Actually I need this so bad for my main use of abc, which is entering jazzstandards, that I've started shopping around for something else, like Lilypond. I've starting putting together a ambitious (with correct melodies, lyrics included, right chords) online fakebook, but for it to be serious you just got to be able to have alternate changes sometimes. Some here might just say "go away, you don't use abc for what it's supposed to do", but abc has some obvious advantages over say Lilypond, and only needs a couple of additional things to be *the* short/compact notation language. | Also how are things looking with the (lack of) ability to give you the | triangle symbol in chords for major 7th chords, and the use of real | accidentals instead of # and b from the chord font? Not much action there that I've seen. Maybe we need you and a few others to keep bringing it up until people pay attention. I'll do that as long as I'm around :-) I wonder if it might help if someone collected PNG or GIF images of such musical symbols and put them on the Web somewhere? I'd love to do that, even right now. I have a an old copy of the postscript font that Encore uses for all its musical symbols. What format should I convert them to (size/resolution). I know close to nothing about postscript, but I'm certainly willing to help as much as I can. -- Atte André Jensen To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] A4/letter in abc2ps
"Atte" == Jensen Atte writes: That's odd, because the default has always been A4, and I've always had to do something to get letter. Atte Well I don't know if it's letter, that was just an Atte assumption. But I know that my printouts gets clipped, and I Atte know that I dont like that :-) Should I put examples on my Atte sitespace for you to take a look at? Look at the postscript file in gv, and see what kind of page it thinks it is. Then change the kind of page and see what kind doesn't clip. (Or what kind does clip the way the pages you're seeing do.) Add: pageheight 29.7 Atte That would be in the format file, right? Yes. Or use acroread and set the "fit to page" option. Atte Not really userfriendly. No. It's the best you can do if you have a pdf file produced by someone else using the wrong size, though. Or use "psresize -pletter". Atte Where and how?? From the unix command line. I think it comes with a package called pstools. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org ) (Note the email and homepage address changes; please update your address book, bookmarks, and links.) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #365
Date: 12 Oct 2000 09:50:24 -0400 From: Laura Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #364 "Derek" == Derek Lane-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Derek I honestly can't see why this whole discussion is such a Derek great problem. Why not simply have two separate key Derek signature codes, one, K:, that can contain the key/mode, Derek and the other, k: (say), that can contain the key Derek signature. That way you maintain compatibility, nearly, Derek with old abc files, but have full scope for exercising Derek personal preference. Any tune can have either or both Derek fields filled. Surely not both. It would confuse people if they conflicted. The proposal we're arguing about is that there should be more options on the current K: field. I wouldn't support having a second field that provides the same information in a different format. I dunno, I think having two separate header fields would be cleaner and less confusing than having several options for the current K: field. If the two fields were both filled it provides some redundancy. If they were in conflict, you can generate an error message, that would be missed if there were only one. Derek Incidentally, I would like to see a 'class' code, that Derek would include one or more characters, each of which would Derek represent a class of music to which the tune belongs. And you can't figure out how to do this with all the current header fields? It seems to me that we already have too many options for this kind of thing. From the standard: A:areayes A:Donegal, A:Bampton B:bookyes yes archive B:O'Neills D:discography yes archive D:Chieftans IV G:group yes yes archive G:flute I:information yes yes playabc N:notes yes N:see also O'Neills - 234 O:origin yes yes index O:I, O:Irish, O:English R:rhythm yes yes index R:R, R:reel S:source yes S:collected in Brittany Z:transcription note yes Z:from photocopy Couldn't any of these be used the way you're thinking of? I suppose I: could be used to categorize the class of the tune, but the name, 'information' suggests more verbose data than cryptic, single character codes. - -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org ) Derek To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #364
Incidentally, I would like to see a 'class' code, that would include one or more characters, each of which would represent a class of music to which the tune belongs. Then, if there is a large archive of tunes, you can pipe it through a filter to extract all those in the archive that belong to the class of music of interest to you, whether you know the names of the individual tunes in the class or not. We already have several header fields like this, all of them wildly ambiguous and interpreted in every possible way by some transcriber somewhere. What do you want your new field to do, exactly? What *kind* of class? - I can think of class divisions like: - transcription from live performance vs recording vs print - raw transcription vs edited version - final version vs draft - fiddle vs pipe setting - transposition for soprano vs alto voice - grade V vs grade VIII difficulty level - melody vs four-part harmonization - copyright vs public domain - laid out in portrait vs landscape format - Gaelic vs English lyrics - requires standard vs DADGAD guitar tuning - banned or permitted under German anti-Nazi laws - standard vs extended vs archaic ABC - original copy or from a mirror site - clean vs bawdy version Two letters isn't going to do it, we need something extensible. Putting keywords in N: fields is a stopgap you can use meanwhile. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
