RE: [ActiveDir] Limit Logon thru GPO
The cconnect.exe also works well in w2k3 server . From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Visser Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:36 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Limit Logon thru GPO This cconnect.exe seems interesting anybody used it with 2003 Server? or is it strictly a NT/2000 tool? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:17 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Limit Logon thru GPO There is no native way of doing this in GP, but there is the Resource Kit utility Cconnect.exe that tries to accomplish the same thing without messy AD partitions (not at all to imply that anything remotely related to AD is messy :)) Darren From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Visser Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:59 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Limit Logon thru GPO Sorry if this question has already been asked but I was sure I saw this at one time and now I cannot find it anywhere. I am beginning to think it was all just a wishful dream. Q. Is it possible to limit the number of logons a user may have at any one moment, using GPO? Microsoft has released the LimitLogin tool, which you can download from http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/d/0/fd05def7-68a1-4f71-8546-25c359cc0842/limitlogin.exe. The tool stores logged-on information in a custom AD partition (dc=limitlogin, dc=domain, dc=com; e.g., dc=limitlogin,dc=savilltech,dc=com) via a Microsoft IIS 6.0 (Windows Server 2003) hosted Web service, a client component, and a logon and logoff script. This is the only answer I could find on the internet but surely this cannot be the only way, like I mentioned I was sure I saw this at one time and now I cannot find it anywhere. Was it all a dream? Should MS get there act together? or did I really see this? I would rather not use LimitLogon as it seems like a bit of a pain in the a$$ to setup and I am pretty sure it is irreversible. Thanks, Aaron Visser Computer Services Tech School District #33 Chilliwack Secondary School [EMAIL PROTECTED] 604.795.7295
RE: [ActiveDir] Merge RecordSet
Yes From: Atila Firmino [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Merge RecordSet Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:43:50 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mail.activedir.org ([12.168.66.190]) by bay0-mc6-f2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 05:48:55 -0800 Received: from mail2.santanderbanespa.com.br [200.220.180.3] by mail.activedir.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.15) id A18E4A77010C; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:43:42 -0500 Received: from mail2.santanderbanespa.com.br (localhost [127.0.0.1])by localhost.santanderbanespa.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA0E163Afor ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:40:30 -0200 (BRST) Received: from bsbrsp35.bs.br.bsch (unknown [180.128.1.12])by mail2.santanderbanespa.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB4F1636for ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:40:30 -0200 (BRST) Received: from bsbrsp42.bs.br.bsch ([180.128.4.45]) by bsbrsp35.bs.br.bsch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:44:29 -0300 X-Message-Info: yilqo4+6kc59PjJBklji4yFTtTbgxTT7PL6o/I+7LsY= Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Priority: normal Thread-Topic: Merge RecordSet thread-index: AcYzB2aCimUZmCW+QoeufPpmd+LpHg== X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Feb 2006 14:44:29.0926 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E0DD060:01C63307] X-imss-version: 2.34 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:60.72184 C:2 M:3 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:2 C:2 M:2 S:3 R:2 (0.1500 0.1500) Precedence: bulk Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I will build two queries by ADODB connections. Is it possible to make a union of results in only one recordset? I mean, can I merge two recordsets in only one? Thanks Atila Essa mensagem e destinada exclusivamente ao seu destinatario e pode conter informacoes confidenciais, protegidas por sigilo profissional ou cuja divulgacao seja proibida por lei. O uso nao autorizado de tais informacoes e proibido e esta sujeito as penalidades cabiveis. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is confidential and protected by a professional privilege or whose disclosure is prohibited by law. Unauthorized use of such information is prohibited and subject to applicable penalties. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/techinfo/howitworks/activedirectory/glo ssary.asp container -- a special type of Active Directory object. A container is like other directory objects in that it has attributes and is part of the Active Directory namespace. However, unlike other objects, it does not usually represent something concrete. It is the container for a group of objects and other containers. organizational unit (OU) -- a container object that is an Active Directory administrative partition. OUs can contain users, groups, resources, and other OUs. Organizational Units enable the delegation of administration to distinct subtrees of the directory. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor Phone # (520) 538-2909 DSN: 879-2909 [EMAIL PROTECTED] GD-NS -Original Message- From: Mark Parris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:23 PM To: ActiveDir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC A container is not an OU. -Original Message- From: Olivarez, Sergio J Mr ANOSC/FCBS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:26:22 To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC What kind of container? An OU is a container. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor GD-NS -Original Message- From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Limit Logon thru GPO
as long as you've got a well setup network Limit Logon works quite nicely. We trialled it before christmas with the intention of limiting our students, but unfortunately we could only get it to work on our staff domain - we're assuming it's because of poordesign(or rather complete lack of, since the driving factor was "I just setup a 2000 server as a backup domain controller and...oh")from when we first moved over to 2000 domains. Installation is simply a case of reading the instructions and clicking through on a 2003 domain controller with IIS installed, deploying the client logon logoff scripts through group policy, and running the MMC updateinstaller on an admin machine to get the ADUC extensions. After that it pretty much integrates into ADUC for managing login quotas etc No more of a pain than getting cconnect working properly, to be honest If it all goes horribly wrong rolling back is (mostly) a case of re-running the installers to uninstall everything. There's a bit of manual intervention to remove the schema updates if you really want, but we just left those in and as far as most day to day administration is concerned it looks like the software was never installed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron VisserSent: 16 February 2006 15:59To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Limit Logon thru GPO Sorry if this question has already been asked but I was sure I saw this at one time and now I cannot find it anywhere. I am beginning to think it was all just a wishful dream. Q. Is it possible to limit the number of logons a user may have at any one moment, using GPO? Microsoft has released the LimitLogin tool, which you can download from http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/d/0/fd05def7-68a1-4f71-8546-25c359cc0842/limitlogin.exe. The tool stores logged-on information in a custom AD partition (dc=limitlogin, dc=domain, dc=com; e.g., dc=limitlogin,dc=savilltech,dc=com) via a Microsoft IIS 6.0 (Windows Server 2003) hosted Web service, a client component, and a logon and logoff script. This is the only answer I could find on the internet but surely this cannot be the only way, like I mentioned I was sure I saw this at one time and now I cannot find it anywhere. Was it all a dream? Should MS get there act together? or did I really see this? I would rather not use LimitLogon as it seems like a bit of a pain in the a$$ to setup and I am pretty sure it is irreversible. Thanks, Aaron Visser Computer Services Tech School District #33 Chilliwack Secondary School [EMAIL PROTECTED] 604.795.7295
[ActiveDir] Null values in adfind results
Im looking for null values in several attributes of user objects but the result only returns the attributes where a value is present. Id like to have the output in some kind of delimited text file so I can import it into a spreadsheet. Can adfind do that? I couldnt find a switch to specify returning null values. Al Maurer Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information Technology Agilent Technologies (719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
[ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
[ActiveDir] Setting up Home Folder Gives User Full Access
We create a home folder for each of our users in ADUC by adding the server path to the Profile Tab. When we setup the home folder, ADUC by default grants the user "Full Control"to this folder, which we would like to stop. We would prefer that they have the ability to read-write, but not to modify the permissions. Two questions here: 1) How do we stop ADUC from automatically granting full access to the end user on their home folder? 2) We have about 2000 home folders that have already been created with the incorrect permissions already setup. Is there a script or utility that can be used to remove the "Full Access" check box from the individual user accounts on the folders? (just for a bit of background, only the domain admins and the user have access to each home folder). Any guidance would be much appreciated. Bonnie Pohlschneider
Re: [ActiveDir] Null values in adfind results
adfind -default -f (objectcategory=organizationalperson)(!attributename=*) -csv should do the trick. Ryan On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for null values in several attributes of user objects but the result only returns the attributes where a value is present. I'd like to have the output in some kind of delimited text file so I can import it into a spreadsheet. Can adfind do that? I couldn't find a switch to specify returning null values. Al Maurer Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information Technology Agilent Technologies (719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? Yep, the same. You can also use the w2k3 cd, then install sp1 and then integrate R2 into the OS SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2 R2 is a new distribution and as such that distribution contains 2 disks, one with W2K3SP1 and on with the R2 binaries In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 If you have W2K3 and you want those to be R2, you need to install SP1 first If you have W2K3 already with SP1 and you want those to be R2, just integrate the R2 binaries. Integrating does not mean INSTALL! You still need to enable the features you want to use. However, integrating R2 onto a DC requires a schema change Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. Nope, kernel is not different, just new OS features. Also see above Cheers, Jorge Original Message- ---From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ---Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA ---Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 16:34 ---To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org ---Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 --- ---Hey list, --- ---Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 ---is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk ---and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 ---SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, ---it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the ---Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade ---your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to ---SP1 ---http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. --- Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 ---and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 ---servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to ---be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option ---Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set ---of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. --- --- ---Nathaniel Bahta ---GD-NS ---List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx ---List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx ---List archive: ---http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ --- This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema Master role back to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally thinking this might get the R2 schema update to work. Wrong! It fails with the same error. I can only imagine we do not have that unique an environment in our testbed and expect others to have the same experience. Luckily, we never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems. We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft regarding this issue. I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or failure) when trying to install R2 in an environment where SFU 3.5 had been installed. Thanks! Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Guido, Thanks for the response! This server is Windows 2003/SP1 with all but the current month's patches. It is the current FSMO role holder. I did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5 tools on another DC that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU schema changes were made. I don't see why that would make any difference, do you? -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your sure that you've previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ? The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema incompatibility with SFU 2.0: check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 Cannot Upgrade Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows Services for UNIX 2.0 Installed CAUSE The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 'uid' that is used by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not compatible with the one that is used by Windows Server 2003. As such your error is likely independent from the changes in the R2 schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003 base schema (not that this really matters for you; I just want to clarify that the error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different from Aric's case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema to Win2003 R2... /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Aric, No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be related to SFU attributes. I only copied a small portion to my posting to save bandwidth. Painful = time = headaches 8-( I was expecting this upgrade to be a walk in the park. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard, Aric Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Are these the only two errors you received? I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I implemented R2 in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :) I created a secondary forest and validated that it did not recur. Note that I also had SFU installed in the original forest and the new secondary forest. I was able to clean up the schema in the existing forest exhibiting the errors but it was a fairly painful process of what seemed to be a goose chase. The tasks included disabling objects attributes in the schema and renaming them amongst other things. Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in production...yet. So can these errors be ignored? If I remember correctly ADPrep is actually failing and therefore NO you cannot ignore these errors since ADPREP will nto occur until they are resolved. Regards, Aric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:22 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi, We did a adprep /forestprep from the W2K3/SP1 R2 Disk 2 CD today on our testbed FSMO DC. It gave the following errors (only a portion shown below) because, I am guessing, that we had already installed SFU 3.5 on this forest some time ago. Should I assume these errors can be ignored? Has anybody else experienced this? Thanks as always! Mike Thommes attributeId attribute value for objects defined in Windows 2000 schema and ext ended schema do not match. A previous schema extension has defined the attribute value as 1.2.840.113556.1 .4.7000.187.70 for object CN=uidNumber,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=anl,DC=go v
RE: [ActiveDir] Null values in adfind results
Whoops! I need to update my copy of adfind. Thanks, Ryan Al Maurer Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information Technology Agilent Technologies (719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan A. Conrad Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Null values in adfind results adfind -default -f (objectcategory=organizationalperson)(!attributename=*) -csv should do the trick. Ryan On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for null values in several attributes of user objects but the result only returns the attributes where a value is present. I'd like to have the output in some kind of delimited text file so I can import it into a spreadsheet. Can adfind do that? I couldn't find a switch to specify returning null values. Al Maurer Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information Technology Agilent Technologies (719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange ActiveSync (OT)
activesync-error-85010014 [Vlad Wiki]: http://www.vladville.com/wiki/activesync-error-85010014 Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Petergal's SBS Blog : 85010001 Error Trying to Sync with WM5.0 Device/ActiveSync4.1/ISA2004: http://blogs.technet.com/petergal/archive/2006/02/02/418663.aspx Got a 85010001 error resolution ;-) Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: My understanding over SSL, yes. Is this a pocket PC style device or a smart phone? If PPC you can manually move the cert (in SBSland we have two) to the device and 'install' them by merely drilling down the file explorer and clicking on it...this will 'install' it on the device. Smartphone mobile 5 you need a cert installer from the company. Nick Whittome - The Naked MVP : Windows Mobile 5.0 Devices and Self Signed Certs: http://msmvps.com/blogs/thenakedmvp/archive/2005/11/15/75687.aspx We need to gather up all the resolutions and stick them in one blog post. Liz Vaibar wrote: I tried that and couldn't get my cert to install. Do I absolutely need the cert? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange ActiveSync (OT) http://blogs.technet.com/sbs their latest podcast is all about mobility. http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2006/02/12/419364.aspx You've added the cert to the device? Liz Vaibar wrote: Has anybody had the joyous experience of trying to make the new Palm Treo 700w sync with their Exchange environment? I am running Exchange 2003 SP2 on clustered servers. I have OWA running on a front-end server. I have checked configurations as the OMA stuff is setup by default and verified that I can log into OMA. I have added my mobile carrier, I can see messages in my logs saying that things are working but the Palm never synchronizes. Instead, I get an error on the Palm that says The server could not be reached. This can be caused by temporary network conditions. Support code: 0x80072EFDI have had this thing miraculously begin working and then suddenly stop. I cannot duplicate success. There is no rhyme or reason to it. I have spent countless hours on this searching the web and see there are a lot of other folks out there who are frustrated but not a whole lot of support information on it. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Liz Vaibar Shape Corp. Systems Administrator -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
[ActiveDir] OT Exchange 2003
Can anyone recommend a good Exchange 2003 mailing list? Todd HofertIT DirectorSpartan Graphics, Inc. This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
RE: [ActiveDir] OT Exchange 2003
Second one under Microsoft Internet Technology.. http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd HofertSent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:17 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] OT Exchange 2003 Can anyone recommend a good Exchange 2003 mailing list? Todd HofertIT DirectorSpartan Graphics, Inc. This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privilegedinformation. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify thesender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy anycopies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person otherthan the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal.
Re: [ActiveDir] OT Exchange 2003
from a posting Michael B. Smith sent awhile ago: The MSExchange.org list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=exchangelist The Sunbelt Exchange list: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/?forum=exchangelist A Yahoo Exchange 2000 list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/ A Yahoo Exchange 2003 list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/ The Swynk list: exchange@intm-dl.sparklist.com http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange A MSN Exchange 2003 list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hth, john Todd Hofert wrote: Can anyone recommend a good Exchange 2003 mailing list? Todd Hofert IT Director Spartan Graphics, Inc. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question
Well, I'm not an HP employee but... AFAIK sensors data such as temperature or fan speeds are not collected by Data Collect jobs so they are not in SIM database. You can check that by querying CIM_Sensors table in your Insight_ SQL database. Additional information on this topic can also be found on HP ITRC forum. Try this search: http://www5.itrc.hp.com/service/james/search.do?todo=searchsearchtext=insig ht+manager+temperaturefrom=forumsorigin=0wpa=forums1.itrc.hp.com%3A80sea rchcategory=ALLhpl=1searchcriteria=allwordsrn=25source=7000presort=rank chkServStor=onesc=support.itrc.hp.comadmit=552267591+1140186464652+283534 75 As far as reporting is concerned, can't say about previous versions but in SIM 5.0 reports are quite customizable. You can have for example a report on sensors for several servers. You will not have actual temps or rpms in this report though, just a status. --Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:42 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question Greetings, I realize that this is off topic, however I need to put together a report using Insight Manager and since we have several HP employees on this list, I was wondering if Insight Manger has the capability of just giving me a report listing only the CPU temperature of each system that I am managing rather then a full report? Sincerely, Jose Medeiros Intel Corporation MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT 408-765-0437 Direct 408-449-6621 Cell List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Setting up Home Folder Gives User Full Access
I'd like to have one that adds the perms back in the right order: the attached one is supposed to reorder them, but doesn't. The fix is simple but tedious -- open the security tab for each folder, and Explorer will reorder them correctly. I modified this from one I found; anyone have a better one? Derek From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:36 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Setting up Home Folder Gives User Full Access We create a home folder for each of our users in ADUC by adding the server path to the Profile Tab. When we setup the home folder, ADUC by default grants the user "Full Control"to this folder, which we would like to stop. We would prefer that they have the ability to read-write, but not to modify the permissions. Two questions here: 1) How do we stop ADUC from automatically granting full access to the end user on their home folder? 2) We have about 2000 home folders that have already been created with the incorrect permissions already setup. Is there a script or utility that can be used to remove the "Full Access" check box from the individual user accounts on the folders? (just for a bit of background, only the domain admins and the user have access to each home folder). Any guidance would be much appreciated. Bonnie Pohlschneider On Error Resume Next Dom = Domain\ 'Enter your domain here strFolder = e:\users 'Root for user dirs Set objFSO = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) strFolder = objFSO.GetAbsolutePathName(strFolder) Set objFolder = objFSO.GetFolder(strFolder) Set colSubFolders = objFolder.SubFolders For Each objSubFolder In colSubfolders SubFolderName = objSubFolder.Name FullPath = strFolder \ SubFolderName WScript.Echo FullPath Action = ADD( Dom SubFolderName :F)+DEL(EVERYONE:R) EditACL FullPath,Action Next Function EditACL(filenm, permspart) ' Edit permissions on a single file or folder 'Set fs=Wscript.CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) chkfile=objFSO.fileexists(filenm) ' make sure the file exists or wscript will crash If chkfile=true Then ChangeACLS filenm, permspart, EDIT, FILE Else chkfolder=objFSO.folderexists(filenm) ' if its not a file, is it a folder ? If chkfolder=true Then ChangeACLS filenm, permspart, EDIT, FOLDER End If End If Set fs=nothing End Function Function ReplaceACL(filenm, permspart) '-- Replace ACL on single file or folder--- 'Set fs=Wscript.CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) chkfile=objFSO.fileexists(filenm) ' make sure file exists If chkfile=true Then ChangeACLS filenm, permspart, REPLACE, FILE Else chkfolder=objFSO.folderexists(filenm) ' if its not a file, is it a folder? If chkfolder=true Then ChangeACLS filenm, permspart, REPLACE, FOLDER End If End If Set fs=nothing End Function Function RecursiveEdit(rootfolder,permspart) '--- Edit ACL's on rootfolder and all its subfolders and files Set fs=Wscript.CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) Set rfldr=objFSO.getfolder(rootfolder) ChangeACLS rfldr.path, permspart, EDIT, FOLDER 'edit rootfolder first For Each file In rfldr.files 'edit all files in root folder ChangeACLS rfldr.path \ file.name, permspart, EDIT, FILE Next For Each sfldr In rfldr.subfolders RecursiveEdit sfldr, permspart ' recurse through subfolders Next Set fs=nothing Set rfldr=nothing End Function Function RecursiveReplace(rootfolder,permspart) '--Replace ACLS on rootfolder and all its subfolders and files Set fs=Wscript.CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject) Set rfldr=objFSO.getfolder(rootfolder) ChangeACLS rfldr.path, permspart, REPLACE,FOLDER For Each file In rfldr.files ChangeACLS rfldr.path \ file.name, permspart,REPLACE,FILE Next For Each sfldr In rfldr.subfolders RecursiveReplace sfldr, permspart Next Set fs=nothing Set rfldr=nothing End Function Function ChangeACLS(FILE,PERMS,REDIT,FFOLDER) '- Edit ACLS of specified file - Const ADS_ACETYPE_ACCESS_ALLOWED = 0 Const ADS_ACETYPE_ACCESS_DENIED = 1 Const ADS_ACEFLAG_INHERIT_ACE = 2 Const ADS_ACEFLAG_SUB_NEW = 9 Set sec = Wscript.CreateObject(ADsSecurity) Set sd = sec.GetSecurityDescriptor(FILE:// FILE) Set dacl = sd.DiscretionaryAcl 'if flagged Replace then remove all existing aces from dacl first If ucase(REDIT)=REPLACE Then For Each existingAce In dacl dacl.removeace existingace Next End If 'break up Perms into individual actions cmdArray=split(perms,+) For x=0 To
RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
Our MS TAM has indicated this is a known bug! I will keep the group posted as I learn more details. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema Master role back to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally thinking this might get the R2 schema update to work. Wrong! It fails with the same error. I can only imagine we do not have that unique an environment in our testbed and expect others to have the same experience. Luckily, we never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems. We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft regarding this issue. I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or failure) when trying to install R2 in an environment where SFU 3.5 had been installed. Thanks! Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Guido, Thanks for the response! This server is Windows 2003/SP1 with all but the current month's patches. It is the current FSMO role holder. I did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5 tools on another DC that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU schema changes were made. I don't see why that would make any difference, do you? -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your sure that you've previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ? The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema incompatibility with SFU 2.0: check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 Cannot Upgrade Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows Services for UNIX 2.0 Installed CAUSE The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 'uid' that is used by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not compatible with the one that is used by Windows Server 2003. As such your error is likely independent from the changes in the R2 schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003 base schema (not that this really matters for you; I just want to clarify that the error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different from Aric's case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema to Win2003 R2... /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Aric, No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be related to SFU attributes. I only copied a small portion to my posting to save bandwidth. Painful = time = headaches 8-( I was expecting this upgrade to be a walk in the park. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard, Aric Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Are these the only two errors you received? I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I implemented R2 in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :) I created a secondary forest and validated that it did not recur. Note that I also had SFU installed in the original forest and the new secondary forest. I was able to clean up the schema in the existing forest exhibiting the errors but it was a fairly painful process of what seemed to be a goose chase. The tasks included disabling objects attributes in the schema and renaming them amongst other things. Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in production...yet. So can these errors be ignored? If I remember correctly ADPrep is actually failing and therefore NO you cannot ignore these errors since ADPREP will nto occur until they are resolved. Regards, Aric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:22 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi, We did a adprep /forestprep from the W2K3/SP1 R2 Disk 2 CD today on our testbed FSMO DC. It gave the following errors (only a portion shown below) because, I am guessing, that we had already installed SFU 3.5 on this forest some time ago. Should I assume these errors can be ignored? Has anybody else experienced this? Thanks
RE: [ActiveDir] Hash-based Software Restriction Policy
How large of an application base are you using certificate-based policies with? Well, for a reasons aready mentioned by Darren and Susan, I don't use SRP. My point was just to point out what I think could be a barrier for hash-based SRP as a global workstation lockdown mechanism. --Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay, Justin (ITS) Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:42 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hash-based Software Restriction Policy Alexander, I have to agree that in all honestly I'll probably not be able to use the HASH policy in the way that I'd like. You're right that it'll likely just be too much administrative overhead to hash new executables constantly - every month at least just for MS patches. Given your input and the more time I've thought about it, certificate policies seem like a better fit. My only concern would be some of the strange 3rd-party applications we have (like the catalog software at the Public Libraries) which are supported by very small vendors that might not spend the time or money to sign their packages. How large of an application base are you using certificate-based policies with? Is it a basic install with just Windows and Office? How do you get the certificates? Thanks for your input! -Justin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Suhovey Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:02 PM To: Alexander Suhovey Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hash-based Software Restriction Policy I wonder if this approach would work in modern hostile environment where patches just keep coming. Don't you think that locking down workstation(s) in this way will put a great deal of additional work to the change management process? In case you don't have one you'll really need it. You see, with every change (patches and updates for OS and software) of binary base on your clients first you will need to find out changed binaries, add new hashes (including those of setup files) to GPO, then wait for policy to propagate, and only after that you can start making actual changes. And this is all in addition to your usual QA process for changes. Sounds like quite a lot of work to me. I'd use Certificate policies instead. MS as well as major sw vendors usually sign executables. By using certificate policies you achieve at least same level of security as with hashes and guess what - you don't need to maintain a huge and ever growing list of hashes, just a few software signing certificates you trust. As for executables that are not signed, you can always use your own certificate trusted by your clients. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say that hash-based software restriction policy is evil, its beautiful. I'm just curious if it is worthy and workable in real corp. environments. Anyone? --Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clay, Justin (ITS) Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:27 PM To: activedir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Hash-based Software Restriction Policy Hey All, I was curious if any of you have set up hash-based software restriction policies. I'd like to set up a policy to only allow the executables that I've hashed to run, and I'm hoping that someone has a list of all of the base executables I'll need to hash just for WinXP to boot and log in successfully. Hopefully someone else has already done the work, so that I don't have to use trial and error to figure out all the exe's I need to hash. Thanks, Justin Clay ITS Enterprise Services Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County Howard School Building Phone: (615) 880-2573 ITS ENTERPRISE SERVICES EMAIL NOTICE The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be subject to copyright or other intellectual property protection. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to use or disclose this information, and we request that you notify us by reply mail or telephone and delete the original message from your mail system. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ ITS ENTERPRISE SERVICES EMAIL NOTICE The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be subject to copyright or other intellectual property protection. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to use or disclose this information, and we request that you notify us by reply mail or telephone and delete the original message from your mail system. List info :
RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
What is the SFU Tools? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Our MS TAM has indicated this is a known bug! I will keep the group posted as I learn more details. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema Master role back to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally thinking this might get the R2 schema update to work. Wrong! It fails with the same error. I can only imagine we do not have that unique an environment in our testbed and expect others to have the same experience. Luckily, we never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems. We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft regarding this issue. I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or failure) when trying to install R2 in an environment where SFU 3.5 had been installed. Thanks! Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Guido, Thanks for the response! This server is Windows 2003/SP1 with all but the current month's patches. It is the current FSMO role holder. I did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5 tools on another DC that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU schema changes were made. I don't see why that would make any difference, do you? -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your sure that you've previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ? The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema incompatibility with SFU 2.0: check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 Cannot Upgrade Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows Services for UNIX 2.0 Installed CAUSE The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 'uid' that is used by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not compatible with the one that is used by Windows Server 2003. As such your error is likely independent from the changes in the R2 schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003 base schema (not that this really matters for you; I just want to clarify that the error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different from Aric's case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema to Win2003 R2... /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Aric, No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be related to SFU attributes. I only copied a small portion to my posting to save bandwidth. Painful = time = headaches 8-( I was expecting this upgrade to be a walk in the park. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard, Aric Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Are these the only two errors you received? I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I implemented R2 in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :) I created a secondary forest and validated that it did not recur. Note that I also had SFU installed in the original forest and the new secondary forest. I was able to clean up the schema in the existing forest exhibiting the errors but it was a fairly painful process of what seemed to be a goose chase. The tasks included disabling objects attributes in the schema and renaming them amongst other things. Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in production...yet. So can these errors be ignored? If I remember correctly ADPrep is actually failing and therefore NO you cannot ignore these errors since ADPREP will nto occur until they are resolved. Regards, Aric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Wednesday, February 15,
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
Services for UNIX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? What is the SFU Tools? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Our MS TAM has indicated this is a known bug! I will keep the group posted as I learn more details. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema Master role back to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally thinking this might get the R2 schema update to work. Wrong! It fails with the same error. I can only imagine we do not have that unique an environment in our testbed and expect others to have the same experience. Luckily, we never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems. We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft regarding this issue. I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or failure) when trying to install R2 in an environment where SFU 3.5 had been installed. Thanks! Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Guido, Thanks for the response! This server is Windows 2003/SP1 with all but the current month's patches. It is the current FSMO role holder. I did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5 tools on another DC that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU schema changes were made. I don't see why that would make any difference, do you? -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your sure that you've previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ? The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema incompatibility with SFU 2.0: check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 Cannot Upgrade Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows Services for UNIX 2.0 Installed CAUSE The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 'uid' that is used by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not compatible with the one that is used by Windows Server 2003. As such your error is likely independent from the changes in the R2 schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003 base schema (not that this really matters for you; I just want to clarify that the error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different from Aric's case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema to Win2003 R2... /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Aric, No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be related to SFU attributes. I only copied a small portion to my posting to save bandwidth. Painful = time = headaches 8-( I was expecting this upgrade to be a walk in the park. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard, Aric Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Are these the only two errors you received? I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I implemented R2 in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :) I created a secondary forest and validated that it did not recur. Note that I also had SFU installed in the original forest and the new secondary forest. I was able to clean up the schema in the existing forest exhibiting the errors but it was a fairly painful process of what seemed to be a goose chase. The tasks included disabling objects attributes in the schema and renaming them amongst other things. Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in production...yet. So can these errors be ignored? If I remember correctly ADPrep is actually
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
To give all of us who paid for Software Assurance a warm fuzzy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] Computer Policies based on User Logon?
Alan, I did look in the user configuration, and most of the settings are available there as well. Thanks for the help. :) On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joni, As you said, when the machine boots it gets the machine policy applied, and you want to back it out when the User logs on, which is pretty much a tall idea! I have never heard of such a function and to be honest would think it to be impossible, unless of course the machine could predict who was going to logon... :-). The closest I could think of doing it would be to fudge it. That is (somehow) stop the machine policy applying at Machine boot up, then getting the user to run the Machine policy via GPUPDATE target:machine when they logon. Of course you then only have the option of not running the machine policy when the Admin user logs on, which is different to undoing the policy settings that the previous user applied to the machine Can I ask why you would want to do this? You mention the case of disable adding tasks to task scheduler. I don't specifically know this policy, but where is it and I would have guessed Microsoft would have given you an equivalent User based policy to achieve what you want. One way that you may be able to achieve what you want (just in this case) would be for the admin to run a script at logon to delete the machine registry key that was created by the machine policy. Of course it will come back when the machine policy runs again. Alan Cuthbertson Policy Management Software:- http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedirf=pol_summary.shtml ADM Template Editor:- http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedirf=adm_summary.shtml Policy Log Reporter(Free) http://www.sysprosoft.com/index.php?ref=activedirf=policyreporter.shtml - Original Message - From: Umer Y. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Policies based on User Logon? If it was user policies, then it wouldn't be a problem. But these are settings in computer configuration which applies before the user logs on, but instead I need them to apply based on the user who logs on. Hope that simplifies my question. ... you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.. - Joni Mitchell From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Policies based on User Logon? Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:27:57 -0800 define your policies in the User Configuration and deny this user access to the policies. Sincerely, Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Umer Y. Sent: Fri 2/10/2006 6:21 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Policies based on User Logon? Thanks for responding Nuo. Loopback policy will merge/replace the logging on user's User Configuration with its User Configuration. That is the opposite of what I am trying to achieve here. Is there way to apply the logging on user's Computer Configuration over machines Computer Configuration perhaps? ... you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone.. - Joni Mitchell From: Nuo Yan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Computer Policies based on User Logon? Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:18:54 -0800 You may want to change the policy processing preferences so that you need the User Group Policy loopback processing mode policy configured. You can find this policy under Computer Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Group Policy folder. There will be two options: Replace and Merge. Replace - The user settings in the computer's GPOs replace the user settings applied to the user. Merge - combine the user settings in computer's GPOs and User's GPOs. If conflict, user settings in computer's GPOs take preference. Hope this helps. You should also consider changing the design of your Group Policy infrastructure. You may want to take advantage of the flexibility of User Configurations and Computer Configurations. You may design your GPOs to fit your requirements. Nuo Yan - MS MVP University of Washington http://msmvps.com/nuoyan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Umer Y. Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:25 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Computer Policies based on User Logon? Hello All, I was wondering if there is a way to have a user logon to the machine and not have the computer
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
All the answers are there on official R2 web site. microsoft.com is full of info on what's, why's, where's about R2. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/default.mspx F.e.: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/f9d70026-ae8b-4969-87 55-1ea1edc4e38e1033.mspx --Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
A couple of reasons 1. As people keep buying the product they will buy the SP1 version of it which has significant updates for security, etc. Best to get the old stuff out of the channels. 2. Gets several feature packs out there with the media so people a. Know about it at all, lots of folks don't know about the RTW stuff b. Feel that it is fully supported (this was an issue with acceptance of ADAM) Even if you don't want any of the feature packs, you want R2 or at least ADAM SP1 for the AD Tool updates. This and more is discussed in the book in the signature below[1]. ;o) Don't upgrade to R2 because you think it is a new OS. Upgrade if you need the feature packs (or tools as mentioned above). I do recommend slapping the schema in when you can, at some point, you will most likely need to apply it so this gives you good head start for getting it in there if you don't need it right away. joe [1] BTW, anyone who has had a chance to go through the book I wouldn't mind hearing reviews (or better reading them on Amazon) and/or thoughts on it. I am getting very positive feedback so far on the updates and folks are really enjoying it. Worst comment is that ADAM deserves more room and I completely agree, ADAM is a book unto itself that I am making up notes on now for including a whole section on Microsoft dorking with the name. If you know an MS Marketing person, please kick them in the knee for me. Tell them they can respond to me at my email address. ADAM was a great name, you could say, this is a case for ADAM madam! Oh no, now you have to say something stupid like we need MSADLDS or ADLDS or even LDS. At least they could have something fun and called it Lightweight Service Directory. ADLDS and LDS are not fun. ADAM is fun. Microsoft, stop being a stick in the mud you boobs. Ah, back to work. Maybe post more over the weekend but probably not, too busy. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for
[ActiveDir] Group Membership
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RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
To keep those who bought SA on their 2003 purchase happy. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
No it's an additional feature pack that goes on top of SP1...and lets' face itit's for Software assurance folks...they had to do something to keep us SA folks happy. Here's what you get in the R2 era that we wanted on our SBS boxes and don't get. DFS improvments (major major one here in my book) Disk folder restrictions... you don't want your MP3s stuck in that folder? No prob. Block 'em. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/default.mspx http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/features/comparefeatures.mspx Guys at least you get these bits on your servers. R2 isn't just Windows 2003. But it's a smorgy pack of options to put on top of SP1. Salandra, Justin A. wrote: So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
Yeah there is plenty of info Al, but there are no definite answers. There are plenty of assumptions to make, but in no way does Microsoft say that R2 is the same as SP1, they say it is based on SP1, except the additional components CD's that are included with it. I mean, I know they are somehow different because if you start the R2 setup from R2 disk 1 (windows 2003 sp1), and then upon your first login it starts to load R2 disk 2. Microsoft does not declare the differences between windows 2003 sp1 and windows 2003 r2 disk 1. It seems that R2 is no more than a couple feature disks, no kernel changes from R2 to SP1. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Suhovey Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:47 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 All the answers are there on official R2 web site. microsoft.com is full of info on what's, why's, where's about R2. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/default.mspx F.e.: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/f9d70026-ae8b-4969-87 55-1ea1edc4e38e1033.mspx --Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated this email: (1) is not, and should not be treated or relied upon as, investment research; (2) contains views or opinions that are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of NIplc; (3) is intended for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation, solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. NIplc does not provide investment services to private customers. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Registered in England no. 1550505 VAT No. 447 2492 35. Registered Office: 1 St Martin's-le-Grand, London, EC1A 4NP. A member of the Nomura group of companies. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ
RE: [ActiveDir] Group Membership
how about querying for the memberof attribute if I remember correctly Joe has a tool called memberof.exe jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, DevonSent: Friday, February 17, 2006 20:52To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Group Membership Whats the quickest way to export a users group membership? Devon Harding Windows Systems Engineer Southern Wine Spirits - BSG 954-602-2469 __This message and any attachments are solely for the intendedrecipient and may contain confidential or privileged information.If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, useor distribution of the information included in the message and anyattachments is prohibited. If you have received this communicationin error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately andpermanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank You. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
RE: [ActiveDir] Group Membership
Like one user? adfind -f "((objectCategory=person)(objectClass=user)(samAccountName=Bob))" -default member Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, DevonSent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:52 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Group Membership Whats the quickest way to export a users group membership? Devon Harding Windows Systems Engineer Southern Wine Spirits - BSG 954-602-2469 __This message and any attachments are solely for the intendedrecipient and may contain confidential or privileged information.If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, useor distribution of the information included in the message and anyattachments is prohibited. If you have received this communicationin error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately andpermanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank You.
Re: [ActiveDir] Group Membership
The dstools or adfind: dsquery user ou=MyOU,dc=domain,dc=com -samid Username | dsget user -memberof You might want to make sure that you run the commands against a GC. Phil On 2/17/06, Harding, Devon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the quickest way to export a users' group membership? Devon Harding Windows Systems Engineer Southern Wine Spirits - BSG 954-602-2469 __This message and any attachments are solely for the intendedrecipient and may contain confidential or privileged information.If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in the message and anyattachments is prohibited. If you have received this communicationin error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately andpermanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank You.
Re: [ActiveDir] Group Membership
You can use the dsget command dsget user UserDN - memberof You can get more info on the command here http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/96a4a5ee-ee72-44d5-845f-71b2de33d4411033.mspx On 2/17/06, Harding, Devon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the quickest way to export a users' group membership? Devon Harding Windows Systems Engineer Southern Wine Spirits - BSG 954-602-2469 __This message and any attachments are solely for the intendedrecipient and may contain confidential or privileged information.If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in the message and anyattachments is prohibited. If you have received this communicationin error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately andpermanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank You.
Re: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
Services for Unix ? - Original Message - From: Salandra, Justin A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? What is the SFU Tools? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:18 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Our MS TAM has indicated this is a known bug! I will keep the group posted as I learn more details. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema Master role back to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally thinking this might get the R2 schema update to work. Wrong! It fails with the same error. I can only imagine we do not have that unique an environment in our testbed and expect others to have the same experience. Luckily, we never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems. We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft regarding this issue. I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or failure) when trying to install R2 in an environment where SFU 3.5 had been installed. Thanks! Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Guido, Thanks for the response! This server is Windows 2003/SP1 with all but the current month's patches. It is the current FSMO role holder. I did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5 tools on another DC that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU schema changes were made. I don't see why that would make any difference, do you? -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your sure that you've previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ? The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema incompatibility with SFU 2.0: check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 Cannot Upgrade Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows Services for UNIX 2.0 Installed CAUSE The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 'uid' that is used by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not compatible with the one that is used by Windows Server 2003. As such your error is likely independent from the changes in the R2 schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003 base schema (not that this really matters for you; I just want to clarify that the error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different from Aric's case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema to Win2003 R2... /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Aric, No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be related to SFU attributes. I only copied a small portion to my posting to save bandwidth. Painful = time = headaches 8-( I was expecting this upgrade to be a walk in the park. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard, Aric Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Are these the only two errors you received? I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I implemented R2 in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :) I created a secondary forest and validated that it did not recur. Note that I also had SFU installed in the original forest and the new secondary forest. I was able to clean up the schema in the existing forest exhibiting the errors but it was a fairly painful process of what seemed to be a goose chase. The tasks included disabling objects attributes in the schema and renaming them amongst other things. Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in production...yet. So can these errors be ignored? If I remember correctly ADPrep is actually failing and therefore NO you
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
You're just upset that ADAM has gone Mormon :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:49 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 A couple of reasons 1. As people keep buying the product they will buy the SP1 version of it which has significant updates for security, etc. Best to get the old stuff out of the channels. 2. Gets several feature packs out there with the media so people a. Know about it at all, lots of folks don't know about the RTW stuff b. Feel that it is fully supported (this was an issue with acceptance of ADAM) Even if you don't want any of the feature packs, you want R2 or at least ADAM SP1 for the AD Tool updates. This and more is discussed in the book in the signature below[1]. ;o) Don't upgrade to R2 because you think it is a new OS. Upgrade if you need the feature packs (or tools as mentioned above). I do recommend slapping the schema in when you can, at some point, you will most likely need to apply it so this gives you good head start for getting it in there if you don't need it right away. joe [1] BTW, anyone who has had a chance to go through the book I wouldn't mind hearing reviews (or better reading them on Amazon) and/or thoughts on it. I am getting very positive feedback so far on the updates and folks are really enjoying it. Worst comment is that ADAM deserves more room and I completely agree, ADAM is a book unto itself that I am making up notes on now for including a whole section on Microsoft dorking with the name. If you know an MS Marketing person, please kick them in the knee for me. Tell them they can respond to me at my email address. ADAM was a great name, you could say, this is a case for ADAM madam! Oh no, now you have to say something stupid like we need MSADLDS or ADLDS or even LDS. At least they could have something fun and called it Lightweight Service Directory. ADLDS and LDS are not fun. ADAM is fun. Microsoft, stop being a stick in the mud you boobs. Ah, back to work. Maybe post more over the weekend but probably not, too busy. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email please notify the sender immediately and delete your copy from your system. You must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc ('NIplc') will not, to the extent permitted by law, accept responsibility or liability for (a) the accuracy or completeness of, or (b) the presence of any virus, worm or similar malicious or disabling code in, this message or any attachment(s) to it. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy.
RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion?
that is interesting in deed - then your case is similar to Aric's afterall. I was thrown off by the ADPREP error message stating ...for objects defined in Windows 2000 schema... - but this way Aric might have simply been one of the first to encounter the issue as at the time it wasn't a known issue :-) keep us posted - esp. if you get a link to more information or anything appropriate to share. /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 20:18 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Our MS TAM has indicated this is a known bug! I will keep the group posted as I learn more details. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:52 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? As an update to this thread, we transferred the Schema Master role back to other DC that has the SFU tools installed originally thinking this might get the R2 schema update to work. Wrong! It fails with the same error. I can only imagine we do not have that unique an environment in our testbed and expect others to have the same experience. Luckily, we never put SFU 3.5 on our production systems. We are going to open up a trouble ticket with Microsoft regarding this issue. I would like to hear of others' experiences (success or failure) when trying to install R2 in an environment where SFU 3.5 had been installed. Thanks! Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Guido, Thanks for the response! This server is Windows 2003/SP1 with all but the current month's patches. It is the current FSMO role holder. I did some checking this morning and find the SFU 3.5 tools on another DC that could have been the FSMO role holder at the time the SFU schema changes were made. I don't see why that would make any difference, do you? -mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Mike - I see you're upgrading from Win2000 AD. Are your sure that you've previously installed SFU 3.5 or was it maybe SFU 2.0 ? The reason I'm asking is that there's a known schema incompatibility with SFU 2.0: check out http://support.microsoft.com/?id=293783 Cannot Upgrade Windows 2000 Server to Windows Server 2003 with Windows Services for UNIX 2.0 Installed CAUSE The upgrade may not work because the attributeSchema 'uid' that is used by Windows 2000 Server for the NIS schema is not compatible with the one that is used by Windows Server 2003. As such your error is likely independent from the changes in the R2 schema - it's actually an incompatibility in the Win2003 base schema (not that this really matters for you; I just want to clarify that the error should be unrelated to R2). As such it's different from Aric's case, who was performing an upgrade from a Win2003 schema to Win2003 R2... /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 02:53 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Hi Aric, No, there were a lot more errors - all seem to be related to SFU attributes. I only copied a small portion to my posting to save bandwidth. Painful = time = headaches 8-( I was expecting this upgrade to be a walk in the park. Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard, Aric Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:46 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] issue with R2 upgrade; SFU confusion? Are these the only two errors you received? I encountered similar errors during beta testing when I implemented R2 in an existing forest - but a lot more than just 2. :) I created a secondary forest and validated that it did not recur. Note that I also had SFU installed in the original forest and the new secondary forest. I was able to clean up the schema in the existing forest exhibiting the errors but it was a fairly painful process of what seemed to be a goose chase. The tasks included disabling objects attributes in the schema and renaming them amongst other things. Fortunately I have not heard of this happening in production...yet. So can these errors be ignored? If I remember correctly ADPrep is actually failing and therefore NO you cannot ignore these errors
RE: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question
Hello Jose - "and since we have several HP employees on this list" - so I guess you're also assuming I know everything about printers ;-) I have no clue if Insight Manager has this function, but I'll try to find out. /Guido P.S.: if I get the answer, you'll owe me a question on Intel procs :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, JoseSent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 23:42To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question Greetings, I realize that this is off topic, however I need to put together a report using Insight Manager and since we have several HP employees on this list, I was wondering if Insight Manger has the capability of just giving me a report listing only the CPU temperature of each system that I am managing rather then a full report? Sincerely, Jose MedeirosIntel CorporationMCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT408-765-0437 Direct408-449-6621 Cell
AD2000 to 2003R2 (thread hijacking - was RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1)
Joe, shameless brown-nosing Got my order of your book from Amazon the other day (and yes I ordered from the link on your web page). It's sitting on my dining room table just waiting to be read. Hopefully I'll have some time to start reading this weekend... /shameless brown-nosing Now, to the real question (which may actually be answered in the book, but I digress). Are there any caveats in moving direct from an AD 2000 domain to a AD2003/R2 schema with the new updates directly? Or does there need to be a stepped approach? (Yes, it does sound like a silly question, but always better safe than sorry.) Joe Pochedley A computer terminal is not some clunky old television with a typewriter in front of it. It is an interface where the mind and body can connect with the universe and move bits of it about. -Douglas Adams -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:49 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 A couple of reasons 1. As people keep buying the product they will buy the SP1 version of it which has significant updates for security, etc. Best to get the old stuff out of the channels. 2. Gets several feature packs out there with the media so people a. Know about it at all, lots of folks don't know about the RTW stuff b. Feel that it is fully supported (this was an issue with acceptance of ADAM) Even if you don't want any of the feature packs, you want R2 or at least ADAM SP1 for the AD Tool updates. This and more is discussed in the book in the signature below[1]. ;o) Don't upgrade to R2 because you think it is a new OS. Upgrade if you need the feature packs (or tools as mentioned above). I do recommend slapping the schema in when you can, at some point, you will most likely need to apply it so this gives you good head start for getting it in there if you don't need it right away. joe [1] BTW, anyone who has had a chance to go through the book I wouldn't mind hearing reviews (or better reading them on Amazon) and/or thoughts on it. I am getting very positive feedback so far on the updates and folks are really enjoying it. Worst comment is that ADAM deserves more room and I completely agree, ADAM is a book unto itself that I am making up notes on now for including a whole section on Microsoft dorking with the name. If you know an MS Marketing person, please kick them in the knee for me. Tell them they can respond to me at my email address. ADAM was a great name, you could say, this is a case for ADAM madam! Oh no, now you have to say something stupid like we need MSADLDS or ADLDS or even LDS. At least they could have something fun and called it Lightweight Service Directory. ADLDS and LDS are not fun. ADAM is fun. Microsoft, stop being a stick in the mud you boobs. Ah, back to work. Maybe post more over the weekend but probably not, too busy. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen comes up, it lists the OS as 2003 R2. In the R2 FAQ page on the Microsoft site, it says that you do not need to upgrade your 2003 servers to R2, you need to only upgrade them to SP1 http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx. Is there not a distinct difference in the Kernel of R2 and the Kernel of 2003 SP1? If not, then for the 2003 servers that I already have online, they need only SP1 to be up to standards. R2 Disk 2 seems like the NT4 Option Pack, not another OS release or kernel, but another set of features on a separate disk. Correct me if I am wrong. Nathaniel Bahta GD-NS List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List
RE: [ActiveDir] Group Membership
Perfect! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Renouf Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:27 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Group Membership The dstools or adfind: dsquery user ou=MyOU,dc=domain,dc=com -samid Username | dsget user -memberof You might want to make sure that you run the commands against a GC. Phil On 2/17/06, Harding, Devon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the quickest way to export a users' group membership? Devon Harding Windows Systems Engineer Southern Wine Spirits - BSG 954-602-2469 __ This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in the message and any attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail and immediately and permanently delete this message and any attachments. Thank You.
RE: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question
really, don't you? ;-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, GuidoSent: Friday, February 17, 2006 22:19To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question Hello Jose - "and since we have several HP employees on this list" - so I guess you're also assuming I know everything about printers ;-) I have no clue if Insight Manager has this function, but I'll try to find out. /Guido P.S.: if I get the answer, you'll owe me a question on Intel procs :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, JoseSent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 23:42To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question Greetings, I realize that this is off topic, however I need to put together a report using Insight Manager and since we have several HP employees on this list, I was wondering if Insight Manger has the capability of just giving me a report listing only the CPU temperature of each system that I am managing rather then a full report? Sincerely, Jose MedeirosIntel CorporationMCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT408-765-0437 Direct408-449-6621 Cell This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
RE: AD2000 to 2003R2 (thread hijacking - was RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1)
Hope you don't mind me answering this... The same rules apply when going from w2k to w2k3r2 compared to w2k-w2k3 Make sure you run ADPREP from DISK 2!!! Using that ADPREP version upgrades the schema directly to version 31 (R2) If you run the ADPREP version from DISK1 you will get schema version 30, which is just W2K3 without R2 See: http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/20/110.aspx Jorge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pochedley Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 22:19 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: AD2000 to 2003R2 (thread hijacking - was RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1) Joe, shameless brown-nosing Got my order of your book from Amazon the other day (and yes I ordered from the link on your web page). It's sitting on my dining room table just waiting to be read. Hopefully I'll have some time to start reading this weekend... /shameless brown-nosing Now, to the real question (which may actually be answered in the book, but I digress). Are there any caveats in moving direct from an AD 2000 domain to a AD2003/R2 schema with the new updates directly? Or does there need to be a stepped approach? (Yes, it does sound like a silly question, but always better safe than sorry.) Joe Pochedley A computer terminal is not some clunky old television with a typewriter in front of it. It is an interface where the mind and body can connect with the universe and move bits of it about. -Douglas Adams -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:49 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 A couple of reasons 1. As people keep buying the product they will buy the SP1 version of it which has significant updates for security, etc. Best to get the old stuff out of the channels. 2. Gets several feature packs out there with the media so people a. Know about it at all, lots of folks don't know about the RTW stuff b. Feel that it is fully supported (this was an issue with acceptance of ADAM) Even if you don't want any of the feature packs, you want R2 or at least ADAM SP1 for the AD Tool updates. This and more is discussed in the book in the signature below[1]. ;o) Don't upgrade to R2 because you think it is a new OS. Upgrade if you need the feature packs (or tools as mentioned above). I do recommend slapping the schema in when you can, at some point, you will most likely need to apply it so this gives you good head start for getting it in there if you don't need it right away. joe [1] BTW, anyone who has had a chance to go through the book I wouldn't mind hearing reviews (or better reading them on Amazon) and/or thoughts on it. I am getting very positive feedback so far on the updates and folks are really enjoying it. Worst comment is that ADAM deserves more room and I completely agree, ADAM is a book unto itself that I am making up notes on now for including a whole section on Microsoft dorking with the name. If you know an MS Marketing person, please kick them in the knee for me. Tell them they can respond to me at my email address. ADAM was a great name, you could say, this is a case for ADAM madam! Oh no, now you have to say something stupid like we need MSADLDS or ADLDS or even LDS. At least they could have something fun and called it Lightweight Service Directory. ADLDS and LDS are not fun. ADAM is fun. Microsoft, stop being a stick in the mud you boobs. Ah, back to work. Maybe post more over the weekend but probably not, too busy. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic Healthcare System 646.505.3681 - office 917.455.0110 - cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:45 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 R2 CD1 == w2k3 SP1. R2 CD2 == addon components. Does that help? neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: 17 February 2006 15:34 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 Hey list, Do you guys/gals know whether it is true that R2 disk 1 is the same as Windows 2003 SP1? I loaded the first disk and it loads exactly and looks exactly like Windows 2003 SP1, except when the license agreement screen
RE: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question
J.. No, I wouldnt expect you to know this, but I am sure that HP also uses SIM in its data centers. I just thought I would ask. Jose J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:19 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question Hello Jose - and since we have several HP employees on this list - so I guess you're also assuming I know everything about printers ;-) I have no clue if Insight Manager has this function, but I'll try to find out. /Guido P.S.: if I get the answer, you'll owe me a question on Intel procs :-) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 23:42 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] HP Insight Manger Question Greetings, I realize that this is off topic, however I need to put together a report using Insight Manager and since we have several HP employees on this list, I was wondering if Insight Manger has the capability of just giving me a report listing only the CPU temperature of each system that I am managing rather then a full report? Sincerely, Jose Medeiros Intel Corporation MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT 408-765-0437 Direct 408-449-6621 Cell
RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V Contractor NASIC/SCNA Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 [..] Microsoft does not declare the differences between windows 2003 sp1 and windows 2003 r2 disk From R2 FAQ (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/R2/R2FAQ.mspx): Q. Why does Windows Server 2003 R2 require two CDs for installation? A. Windows Server 2003 with SP1-a requirement for Windows Server 2003 R2-is on CD 1. CD 2 includes the Windows Server 2003 R2 features. 1. It seems that R2 is no more than a couple feature disks, no kernel changes from R2 to SP1. Indeed. But no less either. Same kernel does not mean that it is just an extra CD with some junk. --Al List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: AD2000 to 2003R2 (thread hijacking - was RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1)
Jorge, I never mind someone knowledgeable answering the question! I haven't had much time to look at what's new in R2 yet, and therefore wanted to check... Glad I asked. I've actually been thinking of finally upgrading our AD controllers to 2003, but was holding off for R2... I've waited this long, might as well do it all in one fell swoop. (Not like I won't be doing more reading on the new tools in R2 before I run some tests and actually do the upgrade, but at least this is one question I won't be stumbling to find an answer for!) Thanks again. JoeP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:47 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: AD2000 to 2003R2 (thread hijacking - was RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1) Hope you don't mind me answering this... The same rules apply when going from w2k to w2k3r2 compared to w2k-w2k3 Make sure you run ADPREP from DISK 2!!! Using that ADPREP version upgrades the schema directly to version 31 (R2) If you run the ADPREP version from DISK1 you will get schema version 30, which is just W2K3 without R2 See: http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/jorge/archive/2005/11/20/110.aspx Jorge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pochedley Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 22:19 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: AD2000 to 2003R2 (thread hijacking - was RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1) Joe, shameless brown-nosing Got my order of your book from Amazon the other day (and yes I ordered from the link on your web page). It's sitting on my dining room table just waiting to be read. Hopefully I'll have some time to start reading this weekend... /shameless brown-nosing Now, to the real question (which may actually be answered in the book, but I digress). Are there any caveats in moving direct from an AD 2000 domain to a AD2003/R2 schema with the new updates directly? Or does there need to be a stepped approach? (Yes, it does sound like a silly question, but always better safe than sorry.) Joe Pochedley A computer terminal is not some clunky old television with a typewriter in front of it. It is an interface where the mind and body can connect with the universe and move bits of it about. -Douglas Adams -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:49 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 A couple of reasons 1. As people keep buying the product they will buy the SP1 version of it which has significant updates for security, etc. Best to get the old stuff out of the channels. 2. Gets several feature packs out there with the media so people a. Know about it at all, lots of folks don't know about the RTW stuff b. Feel that it is fully supported (this was an issue with acceptance of ADAM) Even if you don't want any of the feature packs, you want R2 or at least ADAM SP1 for the AD Tool updates. This and more is discussed in the book in the signature below[1]. ;o) Don't upgrade to R2 because you think it is a new OS. Upgrade if you need the feature packs (or tools as mentioned above). I do recommend slapping the schema in when you can, at some point, you will most likely need to apply it so this gives you good head start for getting it in there if you don't need it right away. joe [1] BTW, anyone who has had a chance to go through the book I wouldn't mind hearing reviews (or better reading them on Amazon) and/or thoughts on it. I am getting very positive feedback so far on the updates and folks are really enjoying it. Worst comment is that ADAM deserves more room and I completely agree, ADAM is a book unto itself that I am making up notes on now for including a whole section on Microsoft dorking with the name. If you know an MS Marketing person, please kick them in the knee for me. Tell them they can respond to me at my email address. ADAM was a great name, you could say, this is a case for ADAM madam! Oh no, now you have to say something stupid like we need MSADLDS or ADLDS or even LDS. At least they could have something fun and called it Lightweight Service Directory. ADLDS and LDS are not fun. ADAM is fun. Microsoft, stop being a stick in the mud you boobs. Ah, back to work. Maybe post more over the weekend but probably not, too busy. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Salandra, Justin A. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] R2 and W2K3 SP1 So Windows 2003 R2 is nothing more then Windows 2003 SP1??? Then why release R2 at all? Justin A. Salandra MCSE Windows 2000 2003 Network and Technology Services Manager Catholic