[analog-help] Why are only settings displayed?

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Title: [analog-help] Why are only settings displayed?





I've selected the reports that I want in my configuration file and the path to the web server's log files is specified in the default configuration file.

...
SETTINGS ON
ORGANISATION ON
HOST ON
...


But I get only the settings. The host and organisation report are not generated.
The program analog 5.1/Unix does not display errors or warnings.
Is there a special setting missing?





Re: [analog-help] Why are only settings displayed?

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Elfring, Markus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've selected the reports that I want in my configuration file and
 the path to the web server's log files is specified in the default
 configuration file.
 ...
 SETTINGS ON
 ORGANISATION ON
 HOST ON
 ...

 But I get only the settings. The host and organisation report are not
 generated.

That's exactly what SETTINGS ON does - it shows you the settings Analog
would use if it were to run with the current configuration.

Remove the SETTINGS directive when you want Analog to generate a Log
Analysis.

Aengus

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AW: [analog-help] Why are only settings displayed?

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Title: AW: [analog-help] Why are only settings displayed?





Thanks for this important information. When will it be added to the documentation?


- I expected that the settings should be displayed as an additional report and should not switch off the others.
- I would like a better formatted settings report, too. Some more line breaks, ordered lists or a table structure would be nice.

My analog script runs longer now.



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That's exactly what SETTINGS ON does - it shows you the settings Analog
would use if it were to run with the current configuration.


Remove the SETTINGS directive when you want Analog to generate a Log
Analysis.





Re: AW: [analog-help] Why are only settings displayed?

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help

Elfring, Markus ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:28 AM):

 Thanks for this important information. When will it be added to the
 documentation?

http://analog.cx/docs/syntax.html#settings

instead of running normally, analog will just tell you what the
values of all the variables will be,


 - I expected that the settings should be displayed as an additional report
 and should not switch off the others.

It's designed as a debugging aid. A dry run of sorts, so you can see
what it would do but not have it affect anything until you are
satisfied with the results. It also allows you to get the settings
report much faster, as you noticed.


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Jeremy Wadsack
Wadsack-Allen Digital Group

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Re: [analog-help] Why are only settings displayed?

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Elfring, Markus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for this important information. When will it be added to the
 documentation?

It is documented. http://www.analog.cx/docs/syntax.html and
http://www.analog.cx/docs/debug.html are both quite explicit about it.

 - I expected that the settings should be displayed as an additional
 report and should not switch off the others.

One run, one report - that's as true for the Settings report as it is
for any other case.

Aengus

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[analog-help] QDNS usage

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
I am trying to use Analog 5.24 but want to use QDNS lookup for DNS
resolving.  I need help with the configuration file for analog.  How do I
set up the analog.cfg file to output IP addresses to run QDNS against?  Then
how do I put that information back into Analog's report?

Thanks


Jason M. Kuhlman
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Re: [analog-help] QDNS usage

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help

Jason M. Kuhlman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:32 AM):

 I am trying to use Analog 5.24 but want to use QDNS lookup for DNS
 resolving.  I need help with the configuration file for analog.  How do I
 set up the analog.cfg file to output IP addresses to run QDNS against?  Then
 how do I put that information back into Analog's report?

QDNS will read your analog.cfg, find out what logs files you are
using, process those and write to the dns cache file you specify.
Analog doesn't run QDNS, you have to run it as a separate process
(that's what makes it more efficient).

Once QDNS has run, Analog can read the results from the cache file by
just using the Analog command DNS READ in your analog.cfg.

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Re: [analog-help] QDNS usage

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Jason M. Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to use Analog 5.24 but want to use QDNS lookup for DNS
 resolving.  I need help with the configuration file for analog.  How
 do I set up the analog.cfg file to output IP addresses to run QDNS
 against?  Then how do I put that information back into Analog's
 report?

Analog doesn't output IP addresses. QDNS looks at the same log files as
Analog does, reads the IP addresses, does the lookups, and generates a
DNS cache file. Then you configure Analog to read the DNS cache file

You can point QDNS at an Analog .cfg file, and it's supposed to read the
relevant settings from it (LOGFILE and DNSFILE, primarily), but you may
want to just specify the settings on the command line until you are
comfortable with it.

QDNS /L logfile.log /D dns.dns /Y (ip address of DNS server)

This will create the DNS cache file called dns.dns. I find that I have
to specify my DNS server address on Windows NT - I don't know why, but
QDNS seems to complain if I don't.

Then add these lines to your Analog.cfg:

DNS READ
DNSFILE dns.dns

Now, when you run Analog, it will use any hostnames that have been
resolved for the Host, Domain and Organization reports.

Aengus

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[analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Hi,
First off, many thanks to the analog development (team? person?) for a very
useful tool.

I'm running analog 5.24 under freebsd 4.6.2.
I have a very straightforward requirement but I can't seem to get analog
to do what I want.  We have a number of private pages and directories that
we don't want to show up in the analog output under any circumstances.
People are mostly interested in hits to their own pages so we're using
the cgi form to allow them to search.
So in analog.cfg I have (the current attempt):
FILEINCLUDE /~secret/
FILEEXCLUDE /~secret/*
This is so that the default behavior is to exclude pages which don't match
the search criteria entered in the web form.  (I've tried FILEINCLUDE * 
for the first line but that results in analog hanging indefinitely
when no other includes or excludes are specified in the web form)

Unfortunately this cfg prevents printing out the overall site (minus
~secret).  Also, if someone explicitly asks for ~secret, analog
hangs.

What am I missing?  It seems like it should be possible to always
exclude certain pages from the printout.

Thanks for any help!!

Rich

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Re: [analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Rich Winkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FILEINCLUDE /~secret/
 FILEEXCLUDE /~secret/*

???

Why are you using FILEINCLUDE at all? If you want to EXCLUDE /~secret,
just use
FILEEXCLUDE /~secret/*

 Unfortunately this cfg prevents printing out the overall site (minus
 ~secret).  Also, if someone explicitly asks for ~secret, analog
 hangs.

 What am I missing?  It seems like it should be possible to always
 exclude certain pages from the printout.

Settings in the default analog.cfg can be over-ridden by settings in the
form, so you should include any FILEEXCLUDES that you don't want
over-ridden in the mandatory config file, which you can specify when you
compile the program.

Aengus

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[analog-help] Counting hits from click-through campaign

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help

One of my sites is doing a click-through campaign with one of their 
industries major websites. They report 

Impressions . .Clicks . . Yield
22,062 . . . . . 281 . . . .1.27%

Our reports show only a very small number of hits form any referrer 
that might be associated with their website. I am not familiar with 
click-throughs, but would assume we would see the activity in our 
referrer reports.  Am I missing something?

Thanks for any advice you can offer. :-)

Kally



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Re: [analog-help] Counting hits from click-through campaign

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help

Kally M ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:47 PM):


 One of my sites is doing a click-through campaign with one of their 
 industries major websites. They report 

 Impressions . .Clicks . . Yield
 22,062 . . . . . 281 . . . .1.27%

 Our reports show only a very small number of hits form any referrer 
 that might be associated with their website. I am not familiar with 
 click-throughs, but would assume we would see the activity in our 
 referrer reports.  Am I missing something?

 Thanks for any advice you can offer. :-)

This depends to some respect on how they have set up their
advertising. Clickthrough tracking is often handled with a script
which may reside on the medium's site or may reside on a server run by
a third-party ad delivery service (like doubleclick.net). So the
referring site you are interested in might not be the site the ads are
running on.

This is further complicated because some browsers don't present
referrer information when a redirection is followed. That is, when the
user clicks on the link, the click-tracking script tells the user's
browser to look at your site. But the browser may not tell your site
that the user was referred from the original ad site or the site
hosting the script at all.

The best way to collect and track clickthroughs is to give the ad
company a unique URL to use for each campaign. You can then use
Analog's FILEINCLUDE script to create a report that looks for just
that result (or look for it in your Request Report).

A simple way of building a unique URL is to add a CGI parameter to
the end of the request. So if you want to direct people to your home
page you could use a link like this:

 http://www.btndesign.com/?AD1000

The 'AD1000' parameter will be ignored for any HTML requests, but will
be logged in your web server logs and processed by Analog. Of course
you can use any valid code you want to. You might need to add
ARGSINCLUDE / to make sure that those request arguments show up in
the Request Report.

-- 

Jeremy Wadsack
Wadsack-Allen Digital Group

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RE: [analog-help] QDNS usage

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
I wanted to do that but my experience is that it will not read nested config files 
like I have set up for analog.  I don't have a desire to keep duplicating config files 
when I can call multiple config files from the command line.  Is there a DNS lookup 
program that will read multiple config files to find my log files in multiple 
directories (by year)?

Thanks

Mike


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[mailto:owner-analog-help;lists.isite.net]On Behalf Of Aengus
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [analog-help] QDNS usage


Jason M. Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to use Analog 5.24 but want to use QDNS lookup for DNS
 resolving.  I need help with the configuration file for analog.  How
 do I set up the analog.cfg file to output IP addresses to run QDNS
 against?  Then how do I put that information back into Analog's
 report?

Analog doesn't output IP addresses. QDNS looks at the same log files as
Analog does, reads the IP addresses, does the lookups, and generates a
DNS cache file. Then you configure Analog to read the DNS cache file

You can point QDNS at an Analog .cfg file, and it's supposed to read the
relevant settings from it (LOGFILE and DNSFILE, primarily), but you may
want to just specify the settings on the command line until you are
comfortable with it.

QDNS /L logfile.log /D dns.dns /Y (ip address of DNS server)

This will create the DNS cache file called dns.dns. I find that I have
to specify my DNS server address on Windows NT - I don't know why, but
QDNS seems to complain if I don't.

Then add these lines to your Analog.cfg:

DNS READ
DNSFILE dns.dns

Now, when you run Analog, it will use any hostnames that have been
resolved for the Host, Domain and Organization reports.

Aengus

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Re: [analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
According to Aengus:
 Rich Winkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  FILEINCLUDE /~secret/
  FILEEXCLUDE /~secret/*
 
 ???
 
 Why are you using FILEINCLUDE at all? If you want to EXCLUDE /~secret,
 just use
 FILEEXCLUDE /~secret/*

If I do that and don't specify any includes or excludes in anlgform.pl,
then analog hangs.  It just goes to sleep and never wakes up.
There are no errors in the logs.  Following are the first few lines
of my current analog.cfg, under which it's currently hanging.

APACHELOGFORMAT (%h %l %u %t \%r\ %s %b \%{Referer}i\ \%{User-Agent}i\)
LOGFILE /var/log/httpd-access.log
LOGFILE /var/log/httpd-access.log.*
DNS WRITE
DNSFILE /var/spool/analog/dnscache
DNSLOCKFILE /var/spool/analog/dnscache.lock
HOSTNAME www.math.missouri.edu
REQLINKINCLUDE pages
REFLINKINCLUDE *
REDIRREFLINKINCLUDE *
FAILREFLINKINCLUDE *
UNCOMPRESS *.gz,*.Z /usr/bin/gzip -cd
SUBBROW */*
SUBTYPE *.gz,*.Z
FILEEXCLUDE /~secret/*
(followed by the stock SEARCHENGINE, ROBOTINCLUDE and TYPEALIAS lines.

I've also overriden the DNS NONE line in anlgform.pl, and set it
to DNS WRITE.

Thanks for any help!
Rich

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Re: [analog-help] Counting hits from click-through campaign

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
I've had problems finding some sites in our referrals as well. A common source of
the problem is either 1) the site refers from numerous, multiple URLs that may
differ from their main commercial URLs; and 2) the referrals may come from an
ad-server address rather than the actual commercial site.

Other than trusting the reports you get from the advertiser (dangerous!), the only
option I can think of is having them point the banners to a specific, web page, and
tracking page views in Analog's Request Report. Or, if you have a database-driven
site that uses parameters (e.g. index.asp?ID=value), you might be able to add a
fake parameter, and track this using the Internal Search report. Myself, I
configure this report to report on the parameter source, and give advertisers
URLs ending with source=advertisername. Then the Internal Search report organizes
all such click-through counts in one place.

james


James Riemermann
MN Office of Tourism
651/297-2077
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

For travel info: www.exploreminnesota.com


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/30/02 01:47PM 

One of my sites is doing a click-through campaign with one of their 
industries major websites. They report 

Impressions . .Clicks . . Yield
22,062 . . . . . 281 . . . .1.27%

Our reports show only a very small number of hits form any referrer 
that might be associated with their website. I am not familiar with 
click-throughs, but would assume we would see the activity in our 
referrer reports.  Am I missing something?

Thanks for any advice you can offer. :-)

Kally



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Re: [analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help

Rich Winkel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:13 PM):

 If I do that and don't specify any includes or excludes in
 anlgform.pl, then analog hangs.  It just goes to sleep and never
 wakes up.

 I've also overriden the DNS NONE line in anlgform.pl, and set it
 to DNS WRITE.

It's not sleeping or hanging it's doing DNS lookups. That's why
the DNS NONE is in anlgform.pl. You can't do DNS lookups in real
time. You should use a third-party DNS tool (see
http://analog.cx/helpers/) to do lookups and have Analog only read the
values.

-- 

Jeremy Wadsack
Wadsack-Allen Digital Group

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Re: [analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
According to Jeremy Wadsack:
 It's not sleeping or hanging it's doing DNS lookups. That's why
 the DNS NONE is in anlgform.pl. You can't do DNS lookups in real
 time. You should use a third-party DNS tool (see
 http://analog.cx/helpers/) to do lookups and have Analog only read the
 values.

DOH!!!  Thank you!!!  That fixed it!

Rich

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Re: [analog-help] Counting hits from click-through campaign

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Thanks Jeremy,

That's exactly the info I needed. I will use a url with parameters in 
the future. For the present - are you saying that there might be NO 
referrer recorded? Or are you just saying that the referrer may not 
be the site we are expecting? When I look at the referrer report and 
throw out the page views from Google, Yahoo, etc. and the sites we 
know have links to ours, there are not enough page views left for ALL 
the remaining referrers to add up to the click-throughs they say we 
are getting. Is this possible?

Thanks,

Kathleen ~~~

On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:03:50 -0700, Jeremy Wadsack wrote:


The best way to collect and track clickthroughs is to give the ad
company a unique URL to use for each campaign. You can then use
Analog's FILEINCLUDE script to create a report that looks for just
that result (or look for it in your Request Report).

This is further complicated because some browsers don't present
referrer information when a redirection is followed. That is, when
the
user clicks on the link, the click-tracking script tells the user's
browser to look at your site. But the browser may not tell your site
that the user was referred from the original ad site or the site
hosting the script at all.


A simple way of building a unique URL is to add a CGI parameter to
the end of the request. 



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Re: [analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Rich Winkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've also overriden the DNS NONE line in anlgform.pl, and set it
 to DNS WRITE.

There's your problem. Never do DNS WRITE from the form. Analogs DNS
lookups are slow, and will invariably cause anlgform.pl to time out.

Aengus

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Re: [analog-help] Counting hits from click-through campaign

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
Jeremy Wadsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However, you will not get all clicks counted that way. Some will have
 no referrer recorded at all. There is nothing you can do to recover
 these. The information was never given so cannot be counted.

How can there be no referrer at all? Sending the Referrer is a function
of the browser, not the referring site, so unless the browser is
deliberately broken so that it doesn't send referrers at all, any
click-through should have a referrer.

Am I missing something obvious?

Aengus

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Re: [analog-help] Counting hits from click-through campaign

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help

the problem is either 1) the site refers from numerous, multiple
URLs that may
differ from their main commercial URLs; and 2) the referrals may
come from an
ad-server address rather than the actual commercial site.

I realized that, but after I excluded everything I knew for certain 
would not be them, the total referrers left (from all types of misc 
places) was less than the click-throughs they reported.  So, if they 
are telling the truth - no referrer was recorded. 


URLs ending with source=advertisername. Then the Internal Search
report organizes
all such click-through counts in one place.

I like that!

Kathleen ~~~





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Re: [analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
According to Jeremy Wadsack:
 
 Can you define the problem more clearly? What is it you want the form
 to do. Obviously you want it to remove certain files (~secret/*) but
 how should the rest of it function?

Sorry, I just want it to exclude certain files regardless of the search
criteria entered in anglform.pl.  I guess I need to tinker with 
anglform.pl ?

Rich
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Re: [analog-help] Mixing FILEEXCLUDES and FILEINCLUDES with anlgform.pl

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help

Rich Winkel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:23 PM):

 According to Jeremy Wadsack:
 
 Can you define the problem more clearly? What is it you want the form
 to do. Obviously you want it to remove certain files (~secret/*) but
 how should the rest of it function?

 Sorry, I just want it to exclude certain files regardless of the search
 criteria entered in anglform.pl.  I guess I need to tinker with 
 anglform.pl ?

Or just specify a mandatory config file when you compile Analog (in
anlghead.h) and put your exclusions in there.

-- 

Jeremy Wadsack
Wadsack-Allen Digital Group

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Re: [analog-help] Counting hits from click-through campaign

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
As I have had similar, unexplainable problems with certain banner ad buys, I wonder
if some of the ad-tracking services might be buggy in some way--say, passing a bad
destination URL to the browser, and counting that as a click-through because,
indeed, they did click through to something--but no page on our site! I can't
confirm this, but I suspect it happens, maybe more often than advertisers would
admit or even know.

Using the Internal Search report and a specific target URL offers a much better
basis for evaluating the success of ad buys or other external links into your site.
Good luck!

james

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/30  3:44p 

the problem is either 1) the site refers from numerous, multiple
URLs that may
differ from their main commercial URLs; and 2) the referrals may
come from an
ad-server address rather than the actual commercial site.

I realized that, but after I excluded everything I knew for certain 
would not be them, the total referrers left (from all types of misc 
places) was less than the click-throughs they reported.  So, if they 
are telling the truth - no referrer was recorded. 


URLs ending with source=advertisername. Then the Internal Search
report organizes
all such click-through counts in one place.

I like that!

Kathleen ~~~





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[analog-help] ARGSINCLUDE

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
I have a log that looks like:
204.123.28.31
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[01/Sep/2002:00:01:27 +0200]
GET
/productos/detalle_py.html?Catalog_productId=63313Catalog_quantity=0


HTTP/1.0 200 51994
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Mercator-2.0
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PyMarketTracker=204.123.28.31.8138103083128658


I want to extract the parameters from the
Catalog_ProductId.
To do so I am including
ARGSINCLUDE /productos/detalle_py.html
 But I can not see any results.
What else I need to do?
Where should I see the results?
 Thank you.
Cesar.




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RE: [analog-help] Req report contains req for other sites

2002-10-30 Thread analog-help
My file request report contains request for other sites (red ones) what does
this means???
Can any one help me in understanding the problem.
 
following is a sample from my Request Report

 Request Report
--
This report lists the files on the site.

Listing files, sorted by the number of requests.

reqs: %bytes:   last time: file
: --: ---: 
 1:  0.37%: 24/Oct/02 10:47: /whtpapr_images/gimport.jpg
 1:  0.08%: 27/Oct/02 23:16: http://www.yahoo.com
 1:  0.06%: 26/Oct/02 09:20: /Strengtheningties.htm
 1:  0.08%: 27/Oct/02 19:10: http://www.intel.com/
 1:  0.10%: 22/Oct/02 17:28: /prod.htm
 1:  0.13%: 26/Oct/02 09:20: /UKRetailSnippets.htm

Thanks  in Adv
Shishir Singhai
Creatnet Services Ltd.

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